[audio-pals] Re: Send Space

  • From: "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:51:03 -0400

I got up this morning after leaving it like I did the night before and found
that it was in the list of my remote folders. So, it appears to have
uploaded. Now, I need to see if the glitch I encountered yesterday caused
any problems with the file. I have not received any e-mails with the direct
link or any other links like I did with the test file, but maybe it will

     So, how is everyone doing. I think I am going to learn more about this
Total Recorder program as it seems like a great program that is easy to use.
Maybe I will snoop around today and see if I can locate any podcasts
regarding the program. I am learning quite a bit though by just playing with
the program because the original file is not effected by anything someone
does in the program like most other programs that are for editing they leave
the original untouched. It appears that Total Recorder will record anything
it hears whether it be a program on the internet, a Skype phone call, or a
headset recording. I believe I seen something that said if it can cross the
sound card then it can record it. So, I may have a new method for recording
audio letters if I can learn more about it prior to school starting. Also,
in my quest to find a program that would edit the video I redownloaded
Switch which is a file conversion program. I had it once before and either I
downloaded the wrong file or they have changed their practices because you
use to be able to use the program to do limited things for as long as you
wanted to use it, but if you wanted to do more in-depth things with the
program then you had to buy the Switch program. I tried purchasing it once
and my bank flagged the purchase and would not let it go through. My bank
flagged my Sen Space purchase as well and would not let it go through so I
had to use a different bank account. Luckily we are in process of switching
banks, but being Social Security is involved we have a small window in order
to make the change.   

    Like I told the fraud department, this is a great thing having purchases
flagged, but they should have a way for a customer to put in a secret pin
that identifies the purchase as being them.

    In unrelated news *LOL*. I seen something cross Facebook yesterday that
was kind of disturbing. The headline I read, but didn't go any further read
that by 2017 all Americans will have a chip implanted into them. I hope this
is a BO thing that will be reversed before this comes to light, but it is
still a bit scary to think this is the mark that will control everything we
do in the future.

From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:28 PM
To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


There is a pause in the toolbar, well it's called stop, but that acts as a
pause.  Also in the transfer table, on the file that is going up you may be
able to pause it via the context menu.  With a mac just VO shift m and there
is a pause, but that is just for the given transfer.  Usually that stops it,
but it may just grab another if you have a list of them waiting to go up
there.  So if you can just find the toolbar you should be able to stop it.
It's been several years since I've death with the wizard in windows though.

On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well. It recognized the .mov file type. However, upon saving it changed the
file type to mp4. Amanda said there is video there so I am a happy camper.
It list all of the file types, there are quite a few, but when I seen the
.mov file type I grabbed the program. One thing I do not know how to do is
how to pause a file in process of uploading through the Send Space wizard.


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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


There are quite a few people I know of using total recorder.  I don't know
what file types it covers.  



On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, I was quite surprised tonight when I opened up Send Space and found my
file that I was working on last night plugging away at uploading. Now of
course it didn't start working again until I opened up the wizard, but just
the fact that it was there surprised me since I had just closed out of the
wizard without saving anything or pausing anything. Also, while looking for
a program to edit the video file I came across a program that seems to be
just as much a beast as Amadeus or Audio Hi Jack Pro just for the Windows
side of things. Just like in Audio Hi Jack Pro, it has free features. The
program is Total Recorder. It says everything with this program is free and
has full functionality with the exception of a small sound inserted ever so
often until the full version is purchased. I listened to a roughly 20 minute
recording and the only sound variation I heard was perhaps a silent period
from time to time. The sound may be inserted when trying to record a You
Tube video or something to that effect, but minimally effects my home video.
Go figure I would spend all day trying to locate a program to trim down the
video that I spent all day yesterday trying to upload only to find that it
is still uploading after I found a program *LOL*. I trimmed the video down
and then ran it through something that apparently amplified it because it
said videos cannot be normalized.   


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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


Well I think Amadeus can handle those, I don't know about on the wWindows
side of things though.  


On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It is best I can tell an ordinary file extension of Apple's. It is .mov


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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


Yep, .mp3 is audio only.  So you are going to have to edit the video in some
way.  I don't know if you can edit video with i-movie or not.  The only
thing I've ever done with video is to listen to it and that's it and convert
them down.  Well come to think of it if you have amadeus pro and it's a
video file type that it recognizes, you can simply make a copy of it, then
open the copy, then let it run to the point where you want to cut it off,
then in the select in the apple menu of Amadeus select extend to end, then
hit the delete key and it's gone, then save as change the destination point
and there you go as long as it recognizes it though, that is the actual

On Aug 6, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It is a single video. It has a size when zipped of 6.29 GB. I am not sure
what it is unzipped. I really only need about 20 to 30 minutes of the video.
This video was recorded using the iPhone. If I didn't need the picture to go
along with it, then I may try MP3 Direct Cut, but if I am not mistaken mp3's
are only audio. Is that correct? Right now I am contending with the fact
that I broke Send Space *LOL*.  

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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


It may not, they do have their glitches sometimes.  


What kind of file is it anyway, if unzipped is it still one file or multiple
files in a folder?  


On Aug 6, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I didn't get this message until this morning. When I came back to it, I had
a message informing me that the upload had failed. I didn't realize that
there was a pause button. It tried to reconnect a few different times with
no success. My computer in power saving options was selected to not turn off
or go to sleep when the lid is closed, but it did both. If it had not done
that then I believe it would have been just fine. I am going to try and
figure out how to cut the file in half as only the first half is what is
really needed. Another problem I discovered this morning is it seems as
though  <http://sendspace.com/> sendspace.com is not working properly, when
I go to the page it tells me that it cannot be found.  


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Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:36 PM
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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


Well I hope it remembers it properly then, or just pause it if you have to
take a break verses actually shutting down the wizard.  Of course your
internet is probably also faster than mine is I'm guessing.  


I did finally get my new version of linux installed.  Took a couple of tries
though but we got it done.  So now that is running and I have at least most
settings to where I want them.  Tomorrow will start by setting up the
various apps that work online since I had it wipe the hard drive.  But I did
save a lot of stuff to external hard drive, so that won't be a very long set


On Aug 5, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you for this information. I have been working on an upload since a
little before lunch time today (12:00 PM) and it is still uploading. I only
have about .69 GB left to upload, but I think I am going to have to do that
in the morning. I had to compress this file into a zip folder in order to
get it to even be accepted.


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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space


Probably don't want to change defaults.  You have to find the folder you
want it to go to for a given file.  Then if using the mac move the mouse
cursor over the folder, then num pad 5 twice, then it will kick you into
folder at that point.  Then option u to choose the file to upload if it is
local.  If it's already in the remote folder and you want to move it over,
you have to find the file first, then command x to cut it, or alt x in
windows, then go to the folder you want it to go to, then open it with the
moving mouse cursor to that specific folder if on the mac then double num
pad 5, and I think enter on a windows computer.  In your preferences it is
probably checked to upload in open folder.  Your computer will say "loading"
which is the new folder becoming available.  There will be a place at least
called comma at least.  Then do command v or alt v to paste it.  If it's a
large file it might take a few seconds, and the wizard may say loading again
while it's transferring, but it won't take nearly as long as uploading from
your local folder which is the computer.  Do not do deletes of files you see
in your local folders, they will delete them from your computer and they are
then gone.  Yes I did that so learned it the hard way.  Doesn't do the
normal trash dialog.  Any locals you want to delete do that outside of the


Also don't forget refresh is your friend because what you move may not show
as being moved for a while until you hit refresh.  After you have moved a
file, then go to previous folder in history and click that which will take
you back to where you were, or click go to home which is your main remote


Here's an example maybe.  


I create a folder in remote folder called books.  I have some James Paterson
books.  Some are in the remote folder, but I have a new one on computer.  So
I go to books in remote, move mouse cursor to VO cursor control option
command f5.  Double click with num pad 5.  It says loading.  Scroll down
with VO keys and down arrow of course, if it still says loading, then back
out of interaction, then go right back in there.  At that point it should
just say comma.  If so then back out again, and create a new folder called
James patterson.  Then interact again and find that new folder, and move
mouse cursor again to that point.  Double click that.  The wizard will say
"loading" again.  Once the comma is available, then do option u.  Files that
I usually upload I store in the user folder, seems to upload out of there.
So in the dialog I set it to colom view which is how I prefer to view stuff
anyway.  Then if the Patterson books that are local are in a folder I just
go the right, and hold the shift down and arrow down, or do command a to
select all once I am lined up on the list of books.  The back out of
interaction and click okay.  Those books will start uploading, and they will
be uploading directly into the James Paterson folder itself.  


Now back in the remote folders, click home folder.  Interact and find what
Patterson books I already have in there.  Hold shift and arrow down however
many times there are books, lets say there are 3 of them.  VO will likely
tell you what you are scrolling and highlighting in your main folder, but
just using arrows will not work in sub folders, you have to then use VO keys
and arrows.  Then command x to cut them.  then go find books and move mouse
cursor over control option command f5.  Double click with num pad 5.  Then
once loaded, go inside the books folder and find the Patterson folder, and
then move mouse cursor to that point again, then double click num pad 5
again and once it says comma, past with command v.  It should be done within
seconds.  Then back out and go home, or go back to books folder or where
ever you wish to go.  Once the pathway is established in setting p an
upload, it's fixed.  You can back out and it will still go to the Paterson
folder.  So you have filled a sub folder of a sub folder from two different
sources.  You then don't have as many things showing in the viewer of either
your remote folder, or your books folder and that is a limit that sendsapce
does have.  Over 1000 items showing and you are apt to get a warning.  


This is a long explanation, but they don't make it overly easy, but at least
it is now doable with a mac.  Maybe it has been for a long time, and nobody
figured it out, but I accidentally stumbled right into it.  Couldn't
understand why it said "loading" so interacted in and discovered I was in a
sub folder.  So now am totally reorganizing my sendspace.  Am going to
seriously put it to use now.  As if I didn't before.  


Also if you get a folder link, just copy the link, which in Apple Mail just
vo shift m and copy link is an option.  Then go to wizard, and interact into
the first unknown.  Paste it into the blank.  then click add.  You will get
an ad folder dialog of course, you can then choose to download the whole
thing, or click navigate the folder.  At that point you are in their remote
folder, not your own, and can get what files you want.  Also the double
click of num pad 5 will let you see into the sub folders, then get what you
want and go back in history.  Once you have selected all you want to
download, go back to home folder which will be your folder, your remote
folder that is.  Wizard will keep downloading from their folder with no
problem until it's all done.  


Now if you have it set to put downloads in your downloads folder, and you
say are downloading a file called, Audio-pals, you will see that file in 3
or more parts until the download is complete.  Then it will consolidate into
just one file.  I tell you this incase you have never used the wizard.  


Now I suspect you will have about 10 more questions.  And maybe you are
rethinking about sending that huge zip file up there, when you could with
just a lift bit of work creat a whole layout in the wizard and have it just
send up little .zip files instead.  Then if you get interrupted, it is more
likely to remember and pick up where it left off.  If you upload a folder
which you can do that, and it gets cut off before it's done, you then have
the folder showing up there in remote folder, but it isn't complete.  It
will also not likely resume if it was a folder upon restarting the wizard.
But a string of .zip files will.  And actually I think it maybe a little
faster because the speeds are more accurate and usually stay up pretty fast
most of the time if it's a string of 50 small .zip files in the upload cue
verses a big folder full of files.  


Okay this e-mail gives you an hour's worth of reading, and probably about 24
hours worth of confusion.  


On Aug 5, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The wizard does show me a list of all my remote folders, but I still have
not figured out how to delete nor select a different folder to place the
file in other than the default. I seen on the website the default location,
but when I clicked on it as it indicated I should do nothing happened.


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Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:43 AM
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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Send Space



On Aug 5, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hey Tom do you know how to delete a single folder without having to delete
all the folders that do not contain a file in Send Space?Which computer are
you using first of all?  Is this a folder inside of another folder, or just
a folder in your remote folder only?  Or just a file in remote folder?  One
thing to not forget in navigating with the mac is to mouse over, which is
control, option, command f5 that is supposed to move the mouse cursor over
the specific item that is in the VO cursor.  It is very handy for dealing
with wizard.  If it is a file inside a sub folder though, you need to go
into the sub folder.  Find that folder in remote browser, mouse over, then
num pad 5 twice it will say "loading."  Back out of the interaction, then
interact back in.  The first thing should say comma, VO arrow down and there
are the individual files in the folder, find the one you want to delete and
mouse over again just for safety reasons, then delete either using delete
key, or function delete if a laptop keyboard, or control num pad 5 which
brings up the normal VO context menu and delete is an option in there.  Yes
sendspace isn't quite normal so some times you have to do the control click
to bring up the normal VO context menu.  That's probably because it is a
remote folder and is a few layers deep is my suspicion.  


Not sure if any of that actually helps you or not though.  


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