Correct, or just express her opinion to him since he’s her spouse. Anyway, you two have your own household so you and the court make the rules. On Oct 15, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I do think that she should keep her mouth shut especially since she doesn’t > even consider us family. So, that would mean that her husband needs to deal > with his kid. > > From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:43 PM > To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Mood > > Yes, we do have to follow what the courts say. They believe that just because > the court is out of it now that everything is back to normal. I told Amanda > the next time they invite him to spend the night we will put a stop to that > and tell them that we will be over about so and so time to stay the night > with them, all of us *LOL*. > He believes that because his ex boss knows everyone here that he can say and > do whatever he wants without any reprocussions. Amanda claims that I know > everyone here too. It is true that I know a lot of people here of course I > grew up here so by doing that you get to know people. > I told Amanda that before we ever think about going over there again, we > should have dinner with them out at a restaurant that way we are all on > neutral ground. More than likely they will decline, but nonetheless we wil > have extended an invite for them to see their grandchild (we have never > denied them the opportunity nor the ability to speak with him). > From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:05 PM > To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Mood > > Yes we have some of the same thing going on up here, sometimes we are family > especially if someone needs financial help, but within a week we aren’t > family. Then the last time which I wouldn’t help got a nasty e-mail saying > how we aren’t family anymore etc. Then one day several months later got a > phone call here and as the lecture about us not being family started and that > the person said they didn’t want any contact with us, I picked up and said, > “then why are you calling? Good bye.” Haven’t heard anything anymore. > Probably because the person was called on it. Wants no communication, but is > calling? Sounds like harassment to me. Well a bunch of messages are saved > on the machine from over the past year, and some e-mails too. Yep so I know > a little of what you’re going through. > > You have to follow what the court says, they can not like it all they want, > but you are still bound by what the judge says. What they are doing puts > that in jeparty. One parent being a step too if I remember the e-mail right, > well, that parent should consider taking a perfect opportunity to shut up. > But obviously their are some definite limits with that person, and that same > person apparently doesn’t know her limitations, and even Clint Eastwood knows > “a man’s gotta know his limitations.” In this case a woman. > > I think you all know perhaps why other people aren’t letting their kids stay > there too now. I don’t think you all are the first to experience this, but > you all are the current recipients. > > I am also guessing that Amanda remaining calm and just being factual probably > drives them nuts. Good for here, the more she can do just exactly that the > better. Being calm and factual that is. > > > On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi Heaver the Cleaver and Bethie the Pepperoni. Dictate what we do with > Little Man. We have constantly told them what is topics that are to be > avoided, not necessarily by our rules, but by the court rules. We have had > our authority undermined on numerous occasions, we have been belittled, > berated, insulted, made to feel like we have to explain ever move we make. > The fil is asailor mouth no matter who is around. The mil asked if he could > spend the night on Saturday. We told them he had lost that privilege due to > behavior problems at school. This is not only for them, but my parents, and > his great grandmother which is there and steps in whenever Amanda is not able > to take him to appointments. We have not put him on total shut down and we > plan to take him to the circus on Saturday. However, spending the night is a > privilege and a privilege that only comes when you know that you can be > trusted to act right and us having to schedule a special parent/teacher > conference is not showing that. After Amanda sent that message that he would > have to earn the privilege back the mil said you will speak to your father > tomorrow. Amanda said that sounded confrontational through text. We never > said that they cannot see him or that we could not bring him over to visit. > So, the mil responds with oh so you can take him to the circus, but not let > him spend the night? Trying to have dinner with Little Man and me her father > starts blowing up her cell, he then calls my cell and on both phones leaves > messages berating and belittling. We were told how we are not making the > right decisions expletives and then the f bomb with a you at the end of the > messages on both of our phones. Come to find out I am a chicken s*** *LOL*. > Well, after all this and we get Little Man in bed Amanda sent a text laying > it all out on the table and letting them know htat they may want to do some > self examining before they think they are going to disrupt our family like > that. They threw stuff up in Amanda’s face that wasn’t even relevant, things > that parents are suppose to do for their kids. Amanda was polite, but > factural in her response and her response seems like it would be pretty > damaging when it comes to visits with Little Man since it talks about > excessive alcohol and how he says he wouldn’t hurt anyone, but she wasn’t > exactly feeling all giddy inside.on their end. We were told today, not in > regards to this, but in regards to other issues that our word when talking > about him is the law. We were told this by our social worker since the case > is now closed. Amanda went on to tell them in the e-mail that we do not have > to justify ourselves or our decisions to anyone nor will we unless required. > We never received a response, probably because Amanda brought up an issue > that happened a few years ago that we were just biting our tongues on with > the mil drawing the line in the sand of who is family and who is not family. > The mil is actually a step parent. Her father passed a way a few years ago > and we were there to pay our respects, we started t go in and we were told by > the step parent that we could not go in because the family was in their > grieving, pretty clear line if you ask me. We aren’t family when it is > convenient and not family when convenient. We either are family or we are not > family. So, that was brought out in the text message and after the extremely > long text message was sent to the mil’s phone, we also sent it to the fil’s > e-mail so that way the mil couldn’t just erase it and hide it from her > husband. If they re going to throw punches then we will throw, but it isn’t > going to be pretty. They haven’t responded anymore. I imagine that it is > still going on, just behind the scenes at this point. That is ok though > because we have not slandered or defamed in anyway only told the facts. It is > a mess, they didn’t step up and try for custody because they say it would be > the end of their marriage. They have other grandkids, but only this one are > they trying so hard to get to spend the night and that in itself concerns me > as to what they are planning because they have never respected the fact that > the courts have clearly said that the mother is not a topic of conversation, > until it is handled in therapy. I have since blocked my fil from calling my > phones because according to him “I am not in my right mind”. Self examining, > but and maybe we can get to the bottom of who is not in their right mind. Oh > well, family is family and if it is meant to be worked out then it will work > out in time, otherwise they will miss out. > > From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather H > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:22 PM > To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Mood > > Dictate what? Hi from Bethie and I. We're sitting together and she is > playing on my computer and I'm playing games on my phone...ah, family time!!! > lol > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 13, 2014, at 10:18 PM, "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Grrrr! Angry! In-laws trying to dictate.