this was a delay caused by the state. The state governor is
responsible for the mobilization and deployment of guard units
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stacey
*Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 22:17
*To:* audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
I agree with u, the state should have taken care of that. Makes me
wonder what state officials were thinking. Did they like have their
heads in the clouds hoping this would just go away? Because it doesn't
work like that.
On 12/14/2014 3:15 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
It’s setting a dangerous pressedent thats for sure, but some other
things that have been done lately also stretch boundaries.
Should have been handled by the State, they have their Militia
they can call up, and had it called up, but hadn’t had them moved
to Ferguson. Sort of like Bengazzi in a way, but don’t know if
the delay was from the Feds or the State. Chicago was ready when
the UN did their thing a couple of years ago, they weren’t going
to put up with masses of folks getting out of line. They usually
don’t. But listening to the media back then you would have
thought they were going to come and it would be the end of the
world as we know it. Well they were able to do their protesting
and parading, but any that got out of line quickly found
themselves isolated and boxed in by the law and then whatever they
were doing stopped quick.
Of course those protesters probably weren’t interested in burning
down neighborhoods, but if they hadn’t have been ready for them
something like that could have eventually happened.
On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
<mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
U know that's a good question. Is it really Obama's concern to
be getting involved with this? Shouldn't he be dealing with
more pressing matters? Like isis? The situation in Missouri
will be old news eventually, but I think isis poses a larger
threat to America than something small in Missouri that
shouldn't have caused such an up roar in the first place.
Michael Brown was in the wrong. They can't seem to grasp that
idea.
On 12/14/2014 7:14 AM, Josh wrote:
*I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in
history has ever gotten involved with a local police
department’s incident?*
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
I don’t either. Maybe only just starting.
On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey
<crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>>
wrote:
I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be
honest with u. All this protesting and fighting. I
have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet.
veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The
people wanting to push said agenda have tried it
for the past several years but all cases fell
apart. These that are going on now probably will
too. The people in power will pay lip service to
the protesters until it actually threatens them,
then watch out.
On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey
<crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
<mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in
the wrong. The police officer was defending
himself. Why can't some people get that
through their heads? Is fighting and
protesting really gonna solve anything?
On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois
or retired out some of them were hoping
that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on,
well they didn’t glad they didn’t. They
were already in trouble, he would have
probably gotten them in more trouble.
On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you
know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he
leaves and who suffers. I belive the
same was true with Bruce Pearl and the
basketball program. Even after Bruce
was penalized from coaching, I think
UT suffered penalties. Of course there
are going to be some reprocussions on
the program just because the coach is
connected, but in a way I think our
teams suffered more than the coaches.
Probably just a biased opinion, but ya
know.
Penn State incident is a pathetic
joke. There is no way that it could
have went on that long and the
situations continued without someone
speaking up about it.
The whole concept of innocent until
proven guilty does not apply anymore.
The concept is now guilty until you
prove yourself innocent. Even if the
Criminal Justice System sees you as
innocent until proven guilty, the rest
of the public are ready to hang you
before they even hear the evidence. A
clear example of this occurred the
other day in class. After the Grand
Jury came back with a not guilty
verdict in Ferguson my professor asked
the classs what they thought about the
incident. The responses were well they
knew if they found him not guilty they
were going to have a riot, they should
have just found him guilty to keep the
rioting from occurring, he was wrong
for shooting Michael Brown, etc.
However, not one person made a comment
regarding the evidence in the case. If
you do not follow the directions of
the police expect to be met with
reprocussions. If you try to get the
officers gun expect to get shot
because I can guarantee that if all
these sideline judges were put in this
same situation they would want to go
home to their family as well and not
sit idly by and let some random
citizen adolescent or adult take their
gun to shoot them with it. It is
insane the autopsy was done, and then
if I am not mistaken Obuma was not
satisfied with the results so he
ordered another autopsy, and I think
there were a few more autopsies done
before they moved forward. How can you
convict a person that was engaging in
self defense?
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
Unfortunately it sounds like in some of
On the sports media down there
they are already convicted.
Sounds like a convoluted case to
me, but I’m sure a lot of them are
anyway.
Then the NCAA will probably want to
threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet
Pen State gets off pretty easy.
There’s still a lot of idiots around
there that think that school is
blameless and inocent with what went
on there. Maybe UT should have set up
in a much more isolated spot like Pen
State did. Of course I’m being a
smart ass about that, but that is
partially how Pen State has gotten
away with a lot more for much longer.
A definite little theefdom there.
Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed
for a lot less and get threatened with
the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting
violation back in the early 90s look
like chump change too, yet they were
threatened with full shut down of all
sports activity. I guess it’s who you
know in the NCAA. Which seems to me
to be as clean as the driven slush. I
guess in the whole UT situation it was
the school that stepped in and sat
them down, but don’t know all of the
details of the whole deal. Guess
we’ll hear something though if they
decide to pursue a case on them.
Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Very true. Right now UT is in the hot
seat regarding rape allegations
against two of the football players. I
just read today that one of the girl’s
boyfriends is on the football team as
well. I read on that the boyfriend
caught her, and the girl is on the
rowing team. So, there are more
elements to the story, but KPD
announced last night that there
investigation was complete and being
sent to the D.A.’s office to see if
charges will be pursued. It is a
tragic situation either way because if
they are guilty then they have not
only ruined their careers, but also
ruined the victims lives. If they are
not guilty, then I would say there
will not be a decision until after the
bowl game which will prevent them from
playing in the game. Not too mention
that if they are found not guilty
there will still be people holding it
against them. So, either way it is a
major black mark on these players.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Wednesday, December 10, 2014
9:58 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
But a QB who knows how to tuck and run
is often not noticed until he’s gotten
10 yards down the field if he can pull
off the fake. If they then
concentrate to much attention looking
for him to run then he then is able to
either use a running back or tail back
or pass. Thats why option offense is
harder to defend. You have to have a
QB that can take some punishment
though, no frail guys as QB, or guys
who can’t work outside of a pocket of
protection. For those it’s a disaster
for them to try to run the ball
themselves. Does though is in pretty
good shape physically. He’s taken
sacks pretty well already this year
too. There have been a few reckless
plays, but learning from them will
cure those. But that whole offense
well really the whole team is having
to learn because there’s so many
freshman on that team this year. They
are already coming together as a unit
pretty good, could be quite
interesting even in a couple of years,
let alone 3 years from now.
On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I would say the QB also then
becomes a target for the rest of
the teams to take out. So, he
needs to be careful or he will be
a true red shirt.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014
3:50 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
He did play in the Bamma game, but
he wasn’t the starter I don’t
think. I think they would have at
least taken Florida though, and
maybe Georgia, and that would have
changed things a lot for U T.
Dobs fits in to the type of
offense that Butch Jones likes to
run which of course is an option
heavy offense. No problem with
that, because your QB becomes a
direct offensive weapon at that
point. It is either going to work
or not. There isn’t a middle
ground, usually it works though.
On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM,
Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It does sound like interesting
things are happening. I have a
feeling that if Josh Dobbs was
in at the first of the year
the florida game and the
Georgia game would have looked
much different. I cannot
remember if Dobbs played
during the Alabama game or
not, but I know all their
games were close calls this
past season.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Tuesday, December 9,
2014 11:43 AM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
Ghost Town
Even more surprising is that
Illinois managed to get in
also. Won just enough games
in Big 10 this year. It’s
been a long time.
Interesting baseball trades
going on today too. Sox are
definitely getting aggressive
about trading. Picked up a
closer something that they
didn’t have last year because
the guy they wanted to be
closer was hurt early. Then
they turn around and pick up
Semarja to beef up their
starting rotation. Cubs have
already been dealing, they
don’t have many secrets as to
who they are wanting, although
the Lester deal hasn’t
happened yet. But if they
pick him up that will anchor
their starting rotation quite
a bit too.
As for TN, I still say thats a
team to be watching out for.
The SEC east isn’t a super
strong devision, it can be
taken and not have to get
around a team like
Alabama.Depends on recruiting
but they’ve already improved
over last year’s team despite
injuries etc. They don’t give
up, unlike the Chicago Bears
who seeo just curl up in a ball.
Illini basketball is looking
pretty interesting this year
too and they’ve already landed
a major recruit to start next
year. Lots of things on the
sports plate, something that
is needed since Da Bears are
so bad this year.
On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38
AM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Well, we managed to get
into a bowl game this
year. Butch just got a pay
raise and a contract
extension.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Wednesday, November
19, 2014 2:59 AM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
Ghost Town
Yep, keep an eye on those
Vols, they are going to be
heard in the next year tr
two seriously the way
things are going. They’ve
had a lot of injuries, but
still manage to keep on
going to some degree.
Yes the style of offense
they play actually fits
Dobs better than the guy
they had start the year,
Dobs himself becomes a
weapon because he can take
more punishment running
the ball himself. Even in
the Bama game they did’t
give up even though Bama
got a two score lead
within the first couple of
minutes of the game.
Yes this whole internet
thing is a great
invention, have listened
to more Tennessee games
this year than Illinois
games, although I did hear
the Illini Gofers game and
like everybody else was
surprised they actually
pulled that one off. I
bet the Gofers were
surprised the most coming
in with only 1 Big 10 loss
at the time. Think they
looked over the Illini and
got burned on that one.
Well it serves them right
they derailed the Illini a
number of times in the past.
On Nov 18, 2014, at
6:58 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
I can’t comment on
NFL, but I am proud of
what I have seen out
of the Vols this year.
It hasn’t been a
stellar season, but
the games we have
played haven’t been
blow outs either. In
fact I heard yesterday
I guess it was one
more win for the Vols
and we will be going
to a bowl game. I wish
they had of put Josh
Dobbs in earlier in
the season rather than
redshirting him as it
may have caused more
upsets especially with
Muschimp and those
Gators. Sorry for the
hi-jack, but I am
known for hijacking
post. Right? *LOL*
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Monday,
November 17, 2014 5:39 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals]
Re: Ghost Town
The Bears have done a
lot of that loosing
this year especially
to teams that
logically would be
worse than them. Up
until yesterday even
playing at home wasn’t
helping them out. But
the NFL this year is
completely goofy anyway.
On Nov 17, 2014,
at 10:25 AM,
BethAnn LaPresta
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"bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>"
for DMARC)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hi everyone.
Nothing exciting
on this end, just
working and trying
to do some
projects around
the house for the
appraisal...trying
to refinance and
get some cash out
of the house to
pay for it all. LOL
My oldest turned
29 on Friday and
apparently ate the
entire jello cake
yesterday (with
the exception of 3
pieces I made him
share with his
friends/brother).
The Seattle
Seahawks lost, so
I left right after
that to avoid the
inevitable
"crabby" that
would be expressed
about the loss.
Hope you all have
a Happy Thanksgiving!
BethAnn
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*From:*Heather H
<copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*To:*"audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
<audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Sent:*Sunday,
November 16, 2014
10:35 PM
*Subject:*[audio-pals]
Re: Ghost Town
Hello, Josh and
Tom. Everything
is okay here in
snowy Ohio. The
snow is coming
down here and I am
looking forward to
going out and
playing in it with
Selah. well, she
will play...I
wouldn't do
anything so
childish as that...lol
Hope everyone who
celebraates it,
has a wonderful
and blessed
Thanksgiving. No
turkey here of
course...can't
trust it. chicken
and dumplings here
for us. The store
killed chicken
little for this
dish not me!!!!
Hugs to you
Bethie!!!!! Happy
birthday to my
oldest nephew who
just turned 29.
OMG, I'm old.
Who let them grow
up?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 16, 2014,
at 11:56 PM,
Thomas McMahan
<shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx
<mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Nope you’re still
in the list and so
should everybody
else bee, it’s
just been dead
quiet lately.
Heather probably
has the bus
running again and
she and George and
Pete and who knows
who else are
probably driving
around and
stopping at
Wal-marts in
Canada again
trying to get
Liz’s attention.
But I’m not sure
they are going to
get Liz’s
attention *lol*.
Got an e-mail from
Suzi off list so
know she’s alive
too. BethAnn
might be doing
another batch of
sessions of closet
rap for her next
album release or
something, or
she’s waiting to
sell you a house
Josh. It might be
“the perfect
place.” Or maybe
not depends on
who’s standard of
perfection is
being used perhaps.
Don’t know about
Don. Danny though
is alive and well,
eating lots and
lots of cream
corn, well
probably every
meal he eats is
cream corn,
because he doesn’t
like it so he has
been placed into
the cream corn
factor.
Patti continues to
improve bit by
bit, gets a little
more talkative
over time at
times. She has a
couple of
appointments
coming in
December, one is
physical, the
other is the
Neurologist. But
I’m thinking
generally things
will be going in
the right
direction for her
as afar as they
are concerned.
On Nov 16,
2014, at 10:20
PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hello,
How is
everyone
doing? I have
not seen any
post from the
list in a few
weeks now. I
am wondering
if I have not
gotten myself
booted somehow
unintentionally.
I guess the
last I seen
any post was
Tom and I
interacting
about the
family issues.
The issues are
not a hundred
percent, but I
do feel that
since Amanda
stood up and
stood her
ground we have
gotten more
respect. Now,
it seems as
though we are
actualy people
and not
servants.
However, that
could change
at any moment.
Well, we have
our
prequalification
letter and
have found a
few houses
that we are
interested in.
We have to
call tomorrow
and get a real
estate agent.
Getting the
prequal was a
bit ofa hassle
though. Today
Amanda and I
went and
bought little
man some
birthday
presents and
got his
location
reserved.
Sometime this
week we have
to get the
invitations
filled-out.
Amanda and I
are in the
home stretch
of the
semester and
everything
seems to be
going alright.
I am in one
class where I
will not know
if I passed or
failed until
the final
grade comes
out since 50%
of the points
aren’t going
to be figured
until the end
of the
semester.
Amanda as far
as I know is
doing fine in
her classes,
she has some
projects that
she is working
on, but I
belive they
are going
fine. So, as
always we have
a ton of
things going
on, but little
time **LOL**.
Have a good
one and I hope
to be able to
read some list
traffic here
in a few days.
Take care and
chat later.
