Well, I had to be a little persistent, but I am now on MacVisionaries. As of right now I have it going into the same Apple folder as my other group. The last time I applied to join I left out the reason by accident, but that accient is why I am now in I do believe because I received an e-mail from what I believe to be the owner or at least one of the mods requesting my reason for wanting to join the group because it did not show up with my application. I gave them the reason and explained that I have been tring since 2013 and within about an hour I was in. It is definitely a high traffic group. Today has been a pretty good day with the exception of some behavior problems. I guess I will eventually train Amanda. No, just kidding *LOL*. We received the last portion of our settlement today so that is all said and done as well as the Medicare letter showing that we do not owe them anything.