Yeah. The guy that I corresponded with he was extremely nice so I suspect that I will learn a lot from the list. Sounds good learning it together. I like the calendar app on the iPhone and I am sure that it will sync up or at least I hope it will anyways. I've been trying to learn a little about the Android plat form on the phones as well being that my dad and mom just took the leap into the smart phone world. So, I am in the process of subscribing to a list regarding Android as well. One thing it seems as though I am learning up front is each phone is different as far as lay-out whereas the iPhone just has a universal lay-out out of the box these phones according to the internet may have different icons dpending on the carrier and the various task that need to be completed may be located in various places as well. I hope that one day Apple will give us an SD slot so we can add more memory, but I do not look for that to happen anytime soon unless the Android catches up to them and gives them more competition. Additionally, it is nice to dream of one day when the iPhone will have a removable battery. I did learn that there is a pinhole on the side of the iPhone while visiting with my cousin from the Philippines yesterday. The pinhole according to her is for the placement of a sim card. I had a nice long visit with my cousin and her two kids yesterday. We had plan to go swimming, but when we got to the pool it was closed for repairs. So, instead of swimming we went bowling. After a couple of games of bowling we finished out the evening at the Cracker Barrel. From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:32 PM To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Finally Don't worry, when I wanted to subscribe under different address I had to go through the same questioning. I just explained who I am and they figured it out and got me in then. So it's a matter of who is around and paying attention or not. But when you have questions people there will help you if you don't ask them here too. Also Micro Soft's office suite is basically inaccessible with voice over, a person I was talking to confirmed that for me today, it is quite common with Micro Soft products though, but you could try Open Office, and it's price is a big wapping FREE! Perhaps that can help you with some of the stuff you do. The most inaccessible part of office stuff in the Mac world though is doing spreadsheet. There is an app called Tables that some people are are using, but you can of course ask questions on the Mac Visionaries list of course. Since I don't do that sort of stuff I probably can't help you much. I always kept my business on paper and in my head. I am thinking about sitting down and learning the calendar stuff though, it might be handy for remembering long term stuff. I wouldn't likely forget when property taxes are due for example, can be in the ball park for that kind of stuff, but say to remember Rascal's vaccinations or something like that it could be handy. I use that example because I forgot until almost to late to schedule those and of course his registration with the County. They just have to have that 12 Dollars to send me a cheap flimsy tag to remind me that he has had his rabies shot *lol*. Well he will get the 3 year shot, he's young enough to gamble on that so we won't hear from the County for 3 years concerning him. But little things like that when a little card comes in the mail 2 or three months in advance would be handy to input it into the system and get a reminder. The memory isn't 100% apparently anymore. I don't like that, but perhaps it's about time for it to start losing some of it's edge, although I view that as a weakness in myself because my memory has always been a pretty good one, especially for anything that is long term. So perhaps some of this stuff we'll learn together. Oh also, if you bring up either Mission Control, or dashboard accidentally, just hit the escape key. Also VO keys m twice in quick succession brings up your "menu Extras, which is where your notifications are, also your dropbox status is there which is handy to have if you are uploading something. Also VO shift M brings up context menu, or hold down control key and num pad five can do the same thing. Many things in the mac world have two or three ways to accomplish the same purpose. There are a lot of keyboard shortcuts you can use to get around, as I mentioned before, I rarely use the physical mouse, I leave that for sighted people to use. On Jul 10, 2014, at 12:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Well, I had to be a little persistent, but I am now on MacVisionaries. As of right now I have it going into the same Apple folder as my other group. The last time I applied to join I left out the reason by accident, but that accient is why I am now in I do believe because I received an e-mail from what I believe to be the owner or at least one of the mods requesting my reason for wanting to join the group because it did not show up with my application. I gave them the reason and explained that I have been tring since 2013 and within about an hour I was in. It is definitely a high traffic group. Today has been a pretty good day with the exception of some behavior problems. I guess I will eventually train Amanda. No, just kidding *LOL*. We received the last portion of our settlement today so that is all said and done as well as the Medicare letter showing that we do not owe them anything.