[audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a track, still learning!

  • From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:07:54 -0800

Jean:
That was an excellent explination.
Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:18 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a track, still
learning!

Remove vocals removes, almost completely, a vocal that is exactly in the
middle.  The farther to the left or right of center a vocal is, the less of
it will be removed.  If a vocal is at the left most or right most positions,
none of it will be removed.  If there is an echo or reverb effect that
causes echo or reverb of the vocal to be placed to the left or right of
center, that audio will not be fully removed and, again, if it is fully to
the left or right, the part of the echo or reverb that is in those positions
will not be removed at all.

Also, any instruments that are in the center will also be removed and
instruments that are closer to the center will be somewhat cut down in
volume.  Again, instruments that are at the far left and far right will not
be effected at all.  The vocal remover has no idea what it is removing.  To
put the mattter in technical terms, it places one track out of phase with
the other and then turns the result into monaural audio. 
This results in any audio at the center being almost completely removed, no
matter what it is.  the farther to the left or right of center you go, the
less the volume will be reduced.  In other words, the less audio will be
removed.
I'll let others describe what phase is if they wish to do so.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:04 PM
> Ok, I did it!
> I was able to do what I wanted so I can have a ringtone.
> Lol.
> Well, while I was playing around, the remove vocals is kind of booshy.
> It doesn't remove vocals. I can still hear them in the background, 
> unless I am not doing it right?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich De 
> Steno
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:59 PM
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a track, 
> still learning!
>
> Press P for pause at the cut point. Press right square bracket and 
> space bar.  Press shift and home. Now you have the beginning selected 
> and you can just press delete to remove it.
>
> Rich De Steno
>
> On 12/20/2012 4:31 PM, Kimsan wrote:
>> Jean,
>> I know how to use the arrow keys and all that just as you noted in 
>> your presentation; however, when I find a stopping point do I press 
>> left or right bracket?
>> There is an ending of a song that I like, and I want to remove 
>> everything from that point to the start of the track.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:17 PM
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a 
>> track, still learning!
>>
>> I suspect that part of what you wrote is incorrect because of 
>> typographical errors.  You indicate that right bracket sets the left 
>> marker.  It actually sets the right marker.
>> To set the left marker, use left bracket or the shift a command you 
>> gave.
>> those commands move the cursor, which acts as the left marker.  Right 
>> bracket sets the right marker and the material between the left and 
>> right marker can be deleted or worked with in other ways. that's 
>> because the material between the cursor and the right marker is 
>> selected. If you want to have the cursor at the very start of the 
>> file, you don't have to move it at all.  It is always automatically 
>> placed at the start of a file and doesn't move unless you move it.
>> So, if you want to delete material between the very start of the file 
>> and two minutes into the file, you don't do anything to set the cursor.
> You just set the right marker.
>>
>> You say that you should play the file until you get to the place 
>> where you want to set a marker.  Playing a file is fine for short 
>> times, such as if you want to set a marker twenty seconds or half a 
>> minute into a file.  It is extremely inefficient if you want to set a 
>> marker any significant distance into the file.  It makes no sense to 
>> let a file play for one minute, two minutes, five minutes, or longer 
>> to get to the place where you want to set a marker. to do any sort of 
>> efficient editing in cases where you move more than short distances 
>> through a file, you must know how to move efficiently using the left 
>> and right arrow keys and the combination of shift left arrow and 
>> shift
> right arrow.
>>
>> Please listen to the part of the presentation I gave a link to in my 
>> last message that deals with Audacity. You are wasting lots of time 
>> moving through files if you only do so by playing the file.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:48 PM
>>> Here're some ways to make a selection start selection by pressing ] 
>>> end selection by pressingn ] If you want to selection from current 
>>> position to the beginning of a track you can do the folowing method
>>> 1:
>>> press ] at the beginning of file
>>> play to the position you want and press p to pause press\ to set the 
>>> end selection press p to unpause Now you cant edit or delete the 
>>> selection method 2:
>>> play until you want to delete
>>> press shift+a to stop and move the cursor to the position where 
>>> you're pause now if you want to select to beginning, press shift+j, 
>>> ending, press
>>> shift+k
>>> HTH
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    From: Kimsan
>>>    To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>    Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:09 AM
>>>    Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a 
>>> track, still learning!
>>>
>>>
>>>    I just listen to the song and then press p to pause.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dang Manh 
>>> Cuong
>>>    Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>    To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>    Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a 
>>> track, still learning!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    a little difficult to understand. Could you tell me how do you 
>>> move to cursor
>>>
>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>      From: Kimsan
>>>
>>>      To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>      Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:11 PM
>>>
>>>      Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a 
>>> track, still learning!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Ok, after I  Imported it, placed the curser where I wanted it 
>>> to be, it said select on and did the shift j and CTRL k, press p or 
>>> spacebar and nothing.
>>>
>>>      From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dang Manh 
>>> Cuong
>>>      Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:59 PM
>>>      To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>      Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: question about deleting part of a 
>>> track, still learning!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      according to me, you are not select the track containing the 
>>> imported audio. You should make sure that by pressing insert+tab. If 
>>> jaws says something like select on, then you'll be able to edit it.
>>> If not, press enter to select it.
>>>
>>>      HTH
>>>
>>>      Cuong.
>>>
>>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>        From: Kimsan
>>>
>>>        To: audacity
>>>
>>>        Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:51 PM
>>>
>>>        Subject: [audacity4blind] question about deleting part of a 
>>> track, still learning!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Hi,
>>>
>>>        So here is what I did.
>>>
>>>        I opened up audacity, imported the audio track, placed the 
>>> curser at a stopping point in the track.
>>>
>>>        I wanted to delete from the curser all the way to the start 
>>> of the track.
>>>
>>>        I did shift j and then CTRL k and when I pressed P or 
>>> spacebar to play it back, nothing happened.
>>>
>>>        Of course, I am doing something wrong, so can someone 
>>> inlighten
> me?
>>>
>>>        Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      ________________
>>>      Dang Manh Cuong
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>>>      The Educational Psychology
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>>>
>>>    ________________
>>>    Dang Manh Cuong
>>>    HCMC University of Pedagogy:
>>>    The Educational Psychology
>>>    Mobile: +84 902-572-300
>>>    E-mail: dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx
>>>    Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
>>>    Skype name: dangmanhcuong
>>>    facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
>>>    Blog: http://vi.netlog.com/Cuong_littlecat
>>>    Website: http://ngoisaodanduong.com
>>>    http://www.saomaicenter.org
>>>    Projec-Website: http://dangmanhcuong.googlecode.com
>>>
>>> ________________
>>> Dang Manh Cuong
>>> HCMC University of Pedagogy:
>>> The Educational Psychology
>>> Mobile: +84 902-572-300
>>> E-mail: dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
>>> Skype name: dangmanhcuong
>>> facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
>>> Blog: http://vi.netlog.com/Cuong_littlecat
>>> Website: http://ngoisaodanduong.com
>>> http://www.saomaicenter.org
>>> Projec-Website: http://dangmanhcuong.googlecode.com
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