Robert, that all works for my feeble brain up to 4.1. I don't understand the
negative and positive numbers bit. In the test I did my level for all tracks,
including the mix track, is minus 6.5. I subtract a DB and get minus 7.5, as I
expected. When deleting the mix track my level has dropped to minus 8.5.
Or did you mean the field where it shows the maximum permitted level? My
concern about using Gain is that it can push a track into clipping which, if I
have it right, does not happen when using Amplify.
Are you able to explain at a level for this simpleton?
Andrew
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Robert Hänggi
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2018 3:45 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: adjusting volume on separate tracks using jaws
Hi Steve
For a multi-track project, the gain staging that you've described is ideal
because:
- you can adjust while listening
- it is non-destructive and needs therefore no calculation
Did you know that there are convenient shortcuts defined?
Shift+Alt+ up/down increase/decrease gain by 1 dB left/right pan
Shift+Alt+ left/right by 10 % (-100 to +100 % or -1 to
1 lineraly)
For numeric inputs, use Shift+G or Shift+P respectively.
Here is how you can normalize the project after the gain levels are set to your
liking:
1. select all (Control+A)
2. mix down to new track (Control+Shift+M) 3. Select the created track as well
(either by pressing enter or
Control+A again)
4. open amplify
if you want to normalize to -1 dB:
4.1 if the number displayed is negative, subtract another dB, e.g.
-6 dB gets -7 dB, OK
4.2 if the number is positive, subtract as well, e.g. 3 dB gets 2 dB, OK 5.
after amplifying has finished, delete the mix track (Shift+C) 6. listen to the
result.
Don't use normalize for this task because it won't work.
Cheers
Robert
On 12/03/2018, Teddy Galanos <tr.galanos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Steve,
After adjusting each track's gain to your liking, the mix down will
need to be adjusted or compressed again. Why? The total gain will
likely be negative. This means clipping.
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of steve ;
schnelle
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:24 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: adjusting volume on separate tracks
using jaws
Hi to all and a big thank you who have helped with this question. I
found some info on the web as well that pointed me to the gain menu,
CTRL G. From there I arrowed down once to the set gain area where I
used the left and right arrows to change the volume. It seems too easy
and I wonder if this changes just the volume on playback or if this
changes the volume in the project that is being manipulated.
Steve
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew ;
Downie
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:49 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: adjusting volume on separate tracks
using jaws
Hi Steve
Ted can give you more precise info via Skype, but the following may
give food for thought. Without knowing how much you know already, I
may give too much or too little detail here. If too little, by all
means ask for more.
The first crucial issue to understand is selecting and deselecting
individual tracks. Pressing Enter will toggle selection and JAWS will
announce the change. To make changes to a track it must be selected.
If you inadvertently have more than one track selected that can lead
to tears, although Audacity's undo feature is good.
Having selected a track, you can adjust the level for all of it or
just a selection. I won't go into further detail here about that, a
this mp3 intro <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v56cn4> I did a
while ago may be of interest.
Having selected the audio whose level you want to adjust, go to the
Effects Menu (alt-c) and arrow down to Amplify. The value you are
offered is what will take the audio to 0dB, but you can choose
whatever value you want, either increasing or decreasing the level.
I suggest practising on a non-crucial recording.
Andrew
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of steve
schnelle
Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018 10:19 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] adjusting volume on separate tracks using
jaws
Hi folks. I have a test project with 4 tracks, drums,
bass, guitars ETC. I'd like to know how I can adjust each track
separately, guitar down, drums up ETC. Thanks for any help.
Steve
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robbie
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:40 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Horrible Problems with Audacity
Hi Diane!
Well it's good that you're sorted for the time being. It's hard to
guess what might prevent your keys from working. One thing that occurs
to me is that if a track is playing while another track is soloed, you
don't necessarily notice it. In that case some key strokes, such as j
and k won't work, while cursor left/right won't seem to have an
effect. If you then press space, thinking you're starting playback,
you have in fact stopped it.
And of course, j and k won't have an effect if no track is selected.
Even if your project contains one track only, it needs to be selected
by pressing Enter.
Cheers! Robbie
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Diane Scalzi
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 1:51 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Horrible Problems with Audacity
Hi Robbie,
I am using a Dell desktop running the latest version of Windows 10,
Audacity
2.2.1.0 and JAWS 2018. I was trying to rescue my old project file, but
then last night decided to rerecord my document. The current file is
working properly. By the way, there is audio in the old project. I am
able to play it but a lot of it is missing. and as I said, the
keyboard commands don't all work. If you have any ideas about what
could be causing the problem, I will keep them for future reference, but my
current project is all good.
Thanks.
Diane
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robbie
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:56 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Horrible Problems with Audacity
Hi Diane!
Please let us know if you're on Windows or Mac, which screen reader
and what version of Audacity you're using.
If you reinstalled the program, that means you saved the apparently
damaged version of the project?
If as you say the key strokes for navigating a track do not work, that
suggests that there is no track in the project. Can you move the
cursor up and down? If not, press alt-t, n, s to add a new track. That
track will be numbered according to the number of tracks in the
project. If there is no track in the project, the new track will be
Track 1. In that case your project is empty. If the new track has any
other number, there are tracks still in the project. Let's take it from there.
Cheers! Robbie
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Diane Scalzi
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:34 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Horrible Problems with Audacity
Hi Everyone,
I am in a lot of trouble with this Audacity I think. I am in a project
and apparently erased most of it. The usual commands for navigating
the track aren't working. I have tried reinstalling the program with
no results. I guess my project is toast, but I'm hopping someone can help me
rescue it.
Thanks.
Diane
