The preference dialog works fine on my W7 with NVDA with one exception:
When the focus lands on a expandable item (e.g. tracks), I have a
delay of several seconds before I can navigate/read or something.
It happens actually only for the first time when arrowing to it, as if
the structure had to be initialized. It's repeatable with each access
to the preference dialog.
Is that specific to my system or do others experience a delay too?
2017-02-01 11:22 GMT+01:00, David Bailes <drbailes@xxxxxxxxx>:
Yes, I'm monitoring events with the MSAA event tool, accevent.
When the preferences dialog opens, there are seven focus events. There are
all for a tree control. The names of the first four are all "file menu",
and the names of the last three are the correct name of the item in the
tree, for example devices. This is obviously more than necessary, and the
events with the name "file menu" are spurious, but it should still work.
Using narrator on windows 10, there is a long pause after opening the
dialog, but it does announce the correct control.
When the preferences dialog closes, there's a singe correct focus event.
I've checked Audacity 2.1.1 and 2.1.2, and the events generated are the
same as 2.1.3 alpha.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Gary Campbell <campg2003@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, I tested with the script disabled and still saw it several times.
Are you monitoring events with the MSAA event tool?
On 1/31/2017 3:51 AM, David Bailes wrote:
concerning the focus problem when opening or closing preferences. I can't
reproduce the problem. Do these problems occur if you are not running
In terms of focus events being sent by Audacity, I can't see any
difference between 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 alpha.
When opening preferences, there are focus events for a file menu, no idea
why, followed by focus events for an item in the tree view. But the file
menu events were present in 2.1.2.
When closing preferences, there appears to be only a single correct focus
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Gary Campbell <campg2003@xxxxxxxxx>
Running a nightly build, particularly near the time of a new release,
will probably work pretty well and can be advantageous both because you
take advantage of the new features and because you have a better chance
getting accessibility problems fixed in the new release. However, you
not want to install a nightly for fear that it might trash your current
installation. Here's how I set up a nightly build so that I have my
environment but don't trash my production installation.
The "nightly" builds are here <http://gaclrecords.org.uk/win-nightly/>.
You can use a nightly without affecting your 2.1.2 installation:
- Unpack the zip file somewhere. Its contents are contained in a
folder named something like audacity-win-rdd836f4-2.1.3-al
- In that folder (which contains audacity.exe), make a folder called
Portable Settings. This will cause Audacity to place its
files here instead of overwriting the ones for your normal
- Run audacity.exe to start the program.
It's simplest to leave Portable Settings empty and let Audacity make its
config files, but if you have configurations, key assignments, plug-ins
etc. that you want, you can copy the contents of %appdata%\Audacity into
Portable Settings. You should close any running Audacity windows before
you do this, but if you don't, when you start the new Audacity it will
to recover the project you had open. You also probably don't want to
the Plug-Ins folder, even if you have installed additional plug-ins.
copy of audacity.cfg will give you your preferences, including custom
assignments. If you don't have extra plugins, you might not want to
pluginregistry.cfg, and pluginsettings.cfg, so you will end up with just
the plug-ins included in the new release. If you do copy these files,
will notice that many Effects, Generators, and Analyzers menu entries
submenus containing several entries, one for each version you had plus
ones from the new build. If this happens, you can get them out of your
- go to Effects > Add / Remove Plug-ins...
- Select the Show enabled radio button.
- Go through the list of plug-ins and press SPACE on every entry you
don't want. I disable everything from other locations unless the
version doesn't have the plug-in. This makes sure that you are using
- Press ENTER to close the dialog.
It will speed things up a little if you notice the characters in the
of the build folder that follow "win-" that you are setting up so you
have to listen to the whole path to know where this entry lives.
The nightlies don't come with the help file, so you might want to open
Preferences (Control+p), press "i" until you get to Interface, press
to move to Display Location of Manual, and choose From Internet. Then
press ENTER to close the dialog.
One of the things I have observed is that sometimes when the Preferences
dialog opens or closes, the focus is on the top-level window instead of
tree view. When the dialog opens JAWS may say "Audacity not
wait a while, and then eventually say "track view table". (I don't
remember if it says "Audacity not responding" when focus moves to the
view-- it hasn't happened recently!) When this happens you can try
clicking somewhere in the window. When exiting the dialog this happens
more often when pressing ESC than ENTER. If there are no tracks in the
project, you may have to click on something that is there, like Project
Rate in the Selection bar and then go back to the track panel.
Hope that helps.