folks, how do mac users do this? Egbert Op 24 apr. 2012, om 06:07 heeft John W. Hess het volgende geschreven: > David, thanks for this info. I didn't realize Jaws would just make a frame > around the object in focus. I thought you had to position the Jaws curser and > use the left and right bracket to set the boundaries. This is great info and > I hope Jaws users will try this. It's great to be abel to get specific > information with a key stroke. Have a great evening. > John W. Hess & Barclay the WonderLab! > Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/@johnythehess > > On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:06 AM, David Bailes wrote: > >> Hi, >> prompted by this message for mac users, just to let Jaws users know that you >> can to a similar sort thing using jaws, that is, assign a keystroke that >> reads out a control in the window. With jaws you use frames, which are fully >> documented in Jaws help. The following gives a rough idea of how it might >> go, but for more info see Jaws help. >> >> For example, to create a keystroke for reading the selection start control >> (whose value is the cursor position if no time-range is selected): >> >> 1. Make sure that the audacity window is maximized. >> 2. Press ctrl+f6 to move to the selection bar. >> 3. Tab to the selection start control. >> 4. Using its context menu, set the format that you want to use. hh:mm:ss + >> hundreths is normally a good choice. >> 5. Press ctrl+shift+[ twice, quickly. The Jaws Create Frame or Prompt dialog >> opens. >> 6. In the list view in this dialog, Frame create is initially selected, so >> you just have to press Enter to press the default OK button. >> 7. The first page of a create new frame dialog opens. Type in a name for the >> frame, for example selectionstart (one word, no spaces). >> 8. Tab to the next button and press it. >> 9. On the next page you can enter a short description if you want to. Then >> tab to the next button and press it. >> 10. On the next page you can enter a more thorough description if you want >> to. Then tab to the next button and press it. >> 11. On the next page you can enter a keystroke for reading the contents of >> the frame. Something like ctrl+4 is suitable so press ctrl+4, >> and then tab to the next button and press it. >> 12. On the next page you can set how you want the text echoed. The default >> setting is Jaws screen Echo, which is fine. Tab to the finish button and >> press it. >> 13. Tab to the Frame Viewer close button, and press it. A Dialog opens >> asking you whether you want to save the changes. Press the yes button. >> >> Now when you press ctrl+4, or whatever keystroke you used, there's at least >> some chance that Jaws may read the >> value of the selection start control. >> >> A note on choosing the keystroke for reading the frame. The keystroke is a >> Jaws shortcut rather than an Audacity keystroke. So you shouldn't choose a >> single letter keystroke, and then you wouldn't be able to use that keystroke >> in audacity of any other purpose, for example typing filenames. The >> keystrokes ctrl+4 to ctrl+9 aren't currently used by audacity, so they're an >> obvious choice. >> >> Once you've created one or more frames, then you can delete or modify them >> using the Frame viewer. >> To open the frame viewer: >> 1. press insert + f2 to open the run Jaws manager dialog. >> 2. select frame manager in the list, and press enter to press the default ok >> button. >> 3. Objects representing existing frames appear, togther with the frame >> viewer buttons. You can tab between these items. >> 4. You can then edit existing frames either by using their context menu, or >> by pressing the frames list button. >> >> David. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John W. Hess <wysiwygtechnologies@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2012, 15:57 >> Subject: [audacity4blind] Regarding selection length and reading other things >> >> Good morning list. Another wonderful feature of the mac is the ability to >> set hot spots and create activities. I have an activity created for >> Audacity and hot spots set for selection beginning, end and also for curser >> position. This means at any given time I can find this information by >> pressing the key assigned to the hotspot. This works really well. I'm >> extremely glad to see that nightly builds of the mac version are being made >> accessible. This is a great program and one that enables keyboard access to >> functions that for the most part were done visually in other editors. >> Yipiieeeee!! >> The audacity4blind web site is at >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >> >> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, >> Audacity keyboard commands, and more... >> >> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with subject line >> unsubscribe >> >> The audacity4blind web site is at >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >> >> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, >> Audacity keyboard commands, and more... >> >> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with subject line >> unsubscribe >> >