[audacity4blind] Re: Regarding selection length and reading other things

  • From: van Ooit <vanooit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:55:17 +0200

folks,
how do mac users do this?
Egbert 
Op 24 apr. 2012, om 06:07 heeft John W. Hess het volgende geschreven:

> David, thanks for this info. I didn't realize Jaws would just make a frame 
> around the object in focus. I thought you had to position the Jaws curser and 
> use the left and right bracket to set the boundaries. This is great info and 
> I hope Jaws users will try this. It's great to be abel to get specific 
> information with a key stroke. Have a great evening.
> John W. Hess & Barclay the WonderLab!
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> 
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:06 AM, David Bailes wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> prompted by this message for mac users, just to let Jaws users know that you 
>> can to a similar sort thing using jaws, that is, assign a keystroke that 
>> reads out a control in the window. With jaws you use frames, which are fully 
>> documented in Jaws help. The following gives a rough idea of how it might 
>> go, but for more info see Jaws help.
>> 
>> For example, to create a keystroke for reading the selection start control 
>> (whose value is the cursor position if no time-range is selected):
>> 
>> 1. Make sure that the audacity window is maximized.
>> 2. Press ctrl+f6 to move to the selection bar.
>> 3. Tab to the selection start control.
>> 4. Using its context menu, set the format that you want to use. hh:mm:ss + 
>> hundreths is normally a good choice.
>> 5. Press ctrl+shift+[ twice, quickly. The Jaws Create Frame or Prompt dialog 
>> opens.
>> 6. In the list view in this dialog, Frame create is initially selected, so 
>> you just have to press Enter to press the default OK button.
>> 7. The first page of a create new frame dialog opens. Type in a name for the 
>> frame, for example selectionstart (one word, no spaces).
>> 8. Tab to the next button and press it.
>> 9. On the next page you can enter a short description if you want to. Then 
>> tab to the next button and press it.
>> 10. On the next page you can enter a more thorough description if you want 
>> to. Then tab to the next button and press it.
>> 11. On the next page you can enter a keystroke for reading the contents of 
>> the frame. Something like ctrl+4 is suitable so press ctrl+4,
>> and then tab to the next button and press it.
>> 12. On the next page you can set how you want the text echoed. The default 
>> setting is Jaws screen Echo, which is fine. Tab to the finish button and 
>> press it.
>> 13. Tab to the Frame Viewer close button, and press it. A Dialog opens 
>> asking you whether you want to save the changes. Press the yes button.
>> 
>> Now when you press ctrl+4, or whatever keystroke you used, there's at least 
>> some chance that Jaws may read the
>> value of the selection start control.
>> 
>> A note on choosing the keystroke for reading the frame. The keystroke is a 
>> Jaws shortcut rather than an Audacity keystroke. So you shouldn't choose a 
>> single letter keystroke, and then you wouldn't be able to use that keystroke 
>> in audacity of any other purpose, for example typing filenames. The 
>> keystrokes ctrl+4 to ctrl+9 aren't currently used by audacity, so they're an 
>> obvious choice.
>> 
>> Once you've created one or more frames, then you can delete or modify them 
>> using the Frame viewer.
>> To open the frame viewer:
>> 1. press insert + f2 to open the run Jaws manager dialog.
>> 2. select frame manager in the list, and press enter to press the default ok 
>> button.
>> 3. Objects representing existing frames appear, togther with the frame 
>> viewer buttons. You can tab between these items.
>> 4. You can then edit existing frames either by using their context menu, or 
>> by pressing the frames list button.
>> 
>> David.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John W. Hess <wysiwygtechnologies@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2012, 15:57
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Regarding selection length and reading other things
>> 
>> Good morning list. Another wonderful feature of the mac is the ability to 
>> set hot spots and create activities.  I have an activity created for 
>> Audacity and hot spots set for selection beginning, end and also for curser 
>> position. This means at any given time I can find this information by 
>> pressing the key assigned to the hotspot.  This works really well. I'm 
>> extremely glad to see that nightly builds of the mac version are being made 
>> accessible. This is a great program and one that enables keyboard access to 
>> functions that for the most part were done visually in other editors. 
>> Yipiieeeee!!
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