[audacity4blind] Re: RMS Normaliser

  • From: Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:45:16 GMT

| From "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> 
| Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:18:59 +0100
| Subject: RMS Normaliser
> I know the arguments for and against RMS normalisation and I would like to
> leave that discussion in the respective forums. :-) Let's just say I'm of
> the RMS persuasion and believe in achieving perceived equal loudness by
> normalising the RMS. As it's an important factor when editing and mixing,
> Replay Gain won't help me there. Would you have any other idea for a
> plug-in?

From your description, I would suggest I add your vote for Audacity's 
"Normalize" to include an option to normalise by Replay Gain. It has
been discussed. RMS is only an approximation of perceived loudness, 
and I think many would feel Replay Gain to give a closer approximation.

Meantime as this is not a specifically VI topic I would suggest you post 
to Steve's Forum topic:
http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=55824#p138683

and give him your view on what an "RMS Normalize" or "Equal Loudness" 
plug-in should do. Then he can consider that while working on his plug-in. 
That plug-in will likely become available before Audacity's Normalize is 
modified further.  




Gale 


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> | From "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:50:19 
> | +0100
> | Subject: [audacity4blind] RMS Normaliser
> > Can anyone recommend a plug-in that normalises the RMS value? I've 
> > searched the forums and plug-in banks for weeks, but I haven't found a 
> > single one that does what I want. The built in normaliser uses the 
> > peak value and the SC4 effect, if I understand it correctly, 
> > calculates the RMS peak, not the actual RMS.
> 
> Robbie,
> 
> SC4 is a compressor:
> http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html#id1882 .
> 
> Usually an RMS normalizer will raise the average loudness to a specific
> level such as -6 dB, but the trouble with that is that it will cause the
> peaks to clip, so you either have to compress the signal, or allow it to
> clip. 
> 
> Are you trying to calculate average RMS and then peak normalize to that
> value? Or trying to make all your tracks "equally loud"? 
> 
> Analyze > Contrast will detect the "average RMS" (press either "Measure
> selection" button then tab into the box to the right). 
> 
> If you want "equal loudness", have you tried simply exporting "as is" from
> Audacity then using "Replay Gain"? There is a Nyquist plug-in here that
> approximates the "Replay Gain" algorithm but it is still experimental:
> http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=55824#p138683 .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gale  
 


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