[audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape deck to digital

  • From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:40:55 -0600

That's good. And now, if you wish, you can use that sound card to record from other analog sources such as radios or televisions. If you haven't done so before you may want to experiment.


Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Smith" <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape deck to digital


Gene, you get the grand prize for hanging in there with the newby
until the problem is fixed!  Thank you!  I set the switch to the other
setting and it works like a charm.  I also made sure that all of the
other settings discussed were correct and it makes a very credible
recording of the taped homemade music that is not great quality in the
first place.  This is just all personal memories kind of stuff and as
some of the tapes are a little over 40 years old, I wanted to get it
all preserved.

Thank you so much for your help.  Thanks to others for making good
suggestions about settings, too.  I'm sure it is the whole package
that makes it work.

Have a lovely weekend.

Donna

On 2/20/15, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
See this review.  According to the author, there is a small switch on the
sound card that allows you to switch the input.  If that is accurate, it
will solve your problem. No drivers need be installed and no software needs

to be installed. Note that the review states that two cds of software come

with the unit. I looked at some customer reviews on Amazon and about four people state that no software was provided. I saw one review where this was

stated and about three people who responded to that review all saying that
got no software.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2014/02/18/behringer-u-phono-uf0202-usbaudio-interface-review/

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape
deck to digital


I should alter my last message. It may be, as the web page says, that you

don't have to install any drivers or software but I'm not sure if that is
true if you want the ability to switch from phono recording to high level
input recording.  Unless you find a physical switch on the sound card for
this purpose and since you see nothing when you look at settings in the
Windows volume control for this purpose, I remain skeptical that no
installation is necessary. You evidently don't have to install anything to

record from a magnetic phono cartridge but I remain unconvinced that you
can record using a high level device such as a tape deck.  I may be wrong
and we'll see what others say who use this sound card.  I still consider
another list member offerring you a driver to be rather strong evidence
that it is needed for the purpose you are going to use the sound card for.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:00 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape deck

to digital


I don't think you would see information about a cdrom being included in
the generall product description.  You said that the manual referenced
installing software from a cd.  that appears to further substantiate my
belief that one of the two following circumstances occurred.  Either the
cd was accidentally not included or it is packaged in such a way that you

missed it.

Whatever the case, you can probably download the driver from the
manufacturer's web site.  And the driver another list member offered to
provide is probably the same driver.  You may want to continue to
investigate or you may want to wait for the other list member to provide

the driver.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Smith" <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:35 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape deck

to digital


Okay.  Here is what is says about this device on the Behringer web
site:


U-PHONO UFO202

Audiophile USB/Audio Interface with Built-in Phono Preamp for
Digitalizing Your Tapes and Vinyl Records


*High-quality USB/audio interface connects your turntable, cassette
player etc. with your computer for recording and playback
*Transfer and restore your valuable vinyl records and tapes to your
computer via a simple USB connection

*Audacity vinyl restoration, noise-reduction, editing and recording
software plus comprehensive podcasting software available for free at
behringer.com
*Phono input switchable to line input source

*Stereo output allows easy connection and playback of computer audio
files over your home sound system
*High-resolution 48 kHz converters for high-end audio quality



More












Love Your Old Records and Cassette Tapes? We love ours too! That's why
we built the UFO202 -- a simple, affordable way to get your records and
vinyl tapes into the digital realm. The UFO202 is easy to use and
comes with a bevy of professional software that not only converts your
favorite recordings into files on your computer, but also removes
those annoying scratches and pops so common to vinyl media.
State-of-the-art switchable Line/Phono preamps and digital converters
ensure the utmost in sound quality, making the U-PHONO UFO202 Audio
Interface a must-have for every audiophile.




PC and Mac Ready

This ultra-compact, USB-powered device lets you connect your PC or Mac
computer to virtually any piece of audio gear. It gets its power from
your computer's USB bus, so no external power supply or batteries are
required. And the UFO202 requires no special setup or drivers--just
plug it in to a free USB port and start recording.




Extreme Versatility

The UFO202 features a stereo input for connecting turntables or any
line-level device (such as a mixer or tape deck), plus a stereo analog
output for connecting active speakers or studio monitors. You can also
connect electronic keyboards, sound modules, drum machines and
line-level devices (such as the V-AMP 3) directly to your computer for
recording. The Volume control allows you to set the level of the
stereo headphones.




Powerful Recording Interface

When used as a professional interface between a mixing console and
your computer, myriad options become available. Some of these might
include connecting the UFO202's RCA Outputs to the Tape Input jacks of
your mixer or active monitors, or directly into the input channels of
the mixer. Connecting to mixer input channels gives you access to
equalization, and allows you to use your mixer's Aux Send features to
build extremely versatile monitor mixes for your recording sessions.




Tons of Free Software

Because you'll want to take full advantage of the UCA222's podcasting
and recording potential we've included Audacity, Podifier, Juice,
Podnova and Golden Ear as a free software download. You're ready to go
live on your Mac or PC computer right out of the box! You also get
more than 100 virtual instruments and over 50 effects plug-ins,
turning your computer into a complete home-based or mobile recording
studio from input to output.

The link for this web page is:

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UFO202.aspx

When I follow the link to free software, here is what they seem to be
giving away:

Compose. Record. Mix. Share.

Tracktion is one of the world's fastest and easiest Digital Audio
Workstations (DAW) for composing, recording, editing, mixing and
sharing your music with the world. Featuring a single-screen
interface, and pushing the envelope in design elegance, Tracktion
brings together outstanding Pro DAW features, such as dynamic
automation, unlimited track count, MIDI recording and support for VST
and AU plug-ins. This powerful music production software gives you all
the tools of an entire professional-grade recording studio. Learning a
DAW has never been easier, thanks to their vast and readily available
library of resources.

I have not downloaded this.  I only downloaded Audacity, thinking it
should do the little I want to do with regard to recording.  Should I
consider Traction?  Traction the software that is.  Not traction I may
need after banging my head against the wall repeatedly!  <smile>

Donna



On 2/20/15, Donna Smith <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gen, the device came with a booklet in four languages, but no
software. The booklet referenced installing software from the CD, but
the web site indicated that no software was needed for the device, but
that installing Audacity was recommended.  I'll go back to Behringer
and see if there is a driver install there as well.

Donna

On 2/20/15, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Changing settings in Audacity won't solve the problem.  The sound
card
has
evidently not had its driver installed.  see my last message.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 11:56 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape
deck
to

digital


The ones I was talking about are in the same section of interface
where
you find the record button.

if you tab from there, you'll come across drop down boxes for
selecting
input and output devices, and controls to let you set recording and
playback volume.

Might not be too relevant, since have no experience with USB audio
recording devices, but, when I want to record something like
physical
drumming sounds, I drop the recording volume quite a lot, and then
amplify

the recording afterwards, and it gives me much better audio quality.

The other thing I did when I recorded tapes using standard audio
line-in
was to then select something like 2 seconds of just background
noise,
and

then invoke the noise removal effect, to let it sort of sample the
selection, and then select whole track, and let it handle noise
removal
-

helped a lot in terms of old tapes for me as well.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Smith" <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a tape
deck

to digital


Okay. I thought I was smart for about 1.5 minutes.  <smile>

Following Vitor's advice, I found devices under preferences and
while
I didn't see any thing that acknowledged the Behringer specifically,

I
found speakers USB Audio CODEC and then under the second device tab

I
found Microphone USB Audio CODEC.  With these two selected, I
pressed
okay, and for one glorious minute of recording it did not have the
distortion.  But when I tried another sample recording from the
same
tape and with the same set-up for devices, the distortion was back.

After reading Jacob's message though, I may have been looking in
the
wrong place altogether, as in preferences I did not actually see
anything that said input device and I do not see anything that lets

me
set the recording volume.

Could it be that the Behringer device is faulty?  I just got it a
couple of days ago.  Or do I need the driver mentioned earlier?

Donna

On 2/20/15, Jacob Kruger <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe also try dropping recording volume level in audacity itself
from
same

sort of toolbar where you select input device.

Then after recording, you can amplify the recording somewhat.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 6:28 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a
tape
deck to

digital


I'm not sure what is causing the problem.  Someone else may have
more
suggestions.  It appears that you are using the correct source
but
I'm

not

sure how Audacity handles selecting of sources.  Try making the
selection

directly in Audacity and see what happens.  I haven't done this
for a
long

time and I'd have to look at the program to see how this is done.

If
you

need help doing this, there are almost certainly other list
members
who
know how to do this without looking in the program.  You will
probably

get

instructions.  If not, I'll look.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Smith" <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 10:11 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: How to successfully record from a
tape
deck

to digital


Hello Gene.  Thanks for the response.

So I found manage audio devices on my laptop and selected sound
and
then recording tab which gave me three devices to select.
External Mic (not plugged in)
Internal mic (ready)
Microphone USB Audio Device (default)

I selected the usb audio device as the Behringer is plugged in
via
USB.  I found the levels tab under properties.  It was
originally
set
at 100% and I lowered it to 30%. Then nothing recorded. I upped

it
to 50% and then 75% and still nothing.

I went back and selected the internal mic and got major feedback
unless it was set to only 1% or muted.

Am I playing around in the wrong place?

Donna


On 2/20/15, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Make sure you have selected line-in as the source and make sure

you
are
using the line-in jack.  Check the volume level of the line-in
setting,
which I believe you can do from within Audacity. If you canpt,
then
check
it using the Windows volume control record settings.  Checking
the
volume
level may not be necessary if you find you haven't been using
line-in
until

now.  Once you switch to line-in, try making a test recording
and
see
if
that solves the problem. If it doesn't, try experimenting with
different
volume levels.  Start at about 30 or 40.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Smith" <donnafsmith59@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 8:05 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] How to successfully record from a
tape
deck
to
digital


Hi all.

My name is Donna and I am an absolute newby interested in only
learning enough to accomplish a specific task.  That task is
recording
my cassette tape material to digital.  I have some very old
tape
of
music that are home recordings in the first place and I don't
expect
great results.  That is, I'm not really looking to make the
sound
quality better.  I just want to preserve it.

I bought the BEHRINGER U-PHONO UFO202 to connect the tape deck

to
my
computer for recording and downloaded the latest version of
Audacity.
I was pleasantly surprised to find Audacity so keyboard
command
friendly!

Here is my specific problem.  When I connect the tape deck to
my
laptop and start recording, there is a distorted sound such as

you
get
when you turn the speakers up too loud.  This happens even
though
I
have the sound level on the tape deck very low.  If I turn it
all
the
way down, then I just get distortion noise in the recording
minus
the
music on the tape.  I've had someone who can see to make sure
that
I
have the connection cables in the right place and I have
grounded
the
tape deck.

What can I do to eliminate this problem?  And please, please
explain
in user friendly terms for someone who knows nothing about
recording
music.

I thank you all in advance for your responses and for allowing

me
to
lower the quality of discussion for a little while.  <smile>

Donna

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