The original question was about burning a CD. I'm just saying that if someone
has MP3 files that they want to burn, there is no benefit in converting them to
another format before burning. I saw one or two messages from people advising
that the files should be wave files or converted to wave files.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Redacted sender "jojoafbmil" for DMARC
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:31 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Header removed maybe?
Gene,
No I was not saying that was trying to help out with the problem it was my
understanding there was a problem with burning a CD or with the format.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 20, 2018 9:30 am
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Header removed maybe?
The quality of an MP3 file, insofar as it varies as encoded within that format,
is determined by the MP3 encoder used. Audacity uses the Lame encoder, a very
widely used encoder. Audacity will create the same quality MP3 files as other
programs using that encoder. Though I haven't made any study, the Lame encoder
appears to be the standard for a lot or perhaps most recording programs.
Wave files sound better but I don't know what you are comparing. An MP3 file,
using the Lame Encoder, with a 320KBPS bit rate and a 44100 sampling rate
sounds good. Everyone has to compare and decide for themselves what they find
acceptable or good.
But the point that I was originally answering is that you appeared to say that
MP3 files should be converted to wave files before burning. there is no
advantage in doing so. You can't add sound to a file that isn't originally
there by converting the format.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Redacted sender "jojoafbmil" for DMARC
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:26 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Header removed maybe?
Gene,
Hi Joey here. Was just trying to help or give suggestions I will have to
research what program that was. No doubt various formats can change the quality
of the sound and the standards are ever changing. But Audacity is going to max
out at a certain point.
There is a lot of debates or opinions on what the differences are. Some experts
claim it's just noise levels that most will never here or the range engineers
have to mix.
A mp3 sounds totally different then a wav in my opinion a wave sounds much
better however again it matters on the mix the orginal quality and the system
it was made on and the systems its played on.
Some folks are playing things at 41.4 24 bit.
What you will notice if you run audacity done projects though a program like
GSpot is it Max's out at a certain point it also likes 32 bit float.
We used to do live broadcast and I had my own station that's when we got into
the changing of formats it was a free program.
You nearly dropped the file in and chose your settings.
It may if been winamp.
Just trying to share information or possibly give you or others what's called a
creative spark and/or do think tanking.
Maybe a suggestion may create an idea or remedy or remind someone of something
that may of been overlooked.
One string is weak many strings make a rope, ropes make bridges.
God willing you will figure it out or someone else will keep trying its just a
matter of time and I trust it will be resolved.
Best wishes always to all of you,
Joey D
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On Thursday, December 20, 2018 Gene <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Before someone who wants to read the message you replied to gets through all
the headers, they will probably give up. Isn't there some setting to get rid
of all this in your replies?
As far as your reply, there is no wave recorder in Windows any longer and it
never converted formats. Sound recorder didn't record in the wave format in
Windows 7. I don't know what format it recorded in in Vista. Also, there is
no point converting from a format like MP3 to wave. The quality of the file
won't be improved from the original. You can never improve the quality of an
existing file by changing it to another format.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Redacted sender "jojoafbmil" for DMARC
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:58 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
There are programs that can change the formats years ago used one will try to
recall the name of it. It may also be possible in the wave recorder in windows
as well.
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On Thursday, December 20, 2018 Gene <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Why are you saying it is preferable to save as wave in Audacity? I've been on
the Audacity users list for years and no one has ever made that statement. I
didn't use Audacity much, but I have it and I have used it and saved to MP3. I
saw no inferior audio results compared to using MP3 Direct Cut in the quality
of the MP3 file. If your intention, regardless of what recording program you
use, is to create files you know you will burn later, then wave is better
because wave is a lossless format, but it doesn't matter what recording program
you use. Wave is lossless, and MP3 is lossie, (spelling.)
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Downie
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:54 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Gene, you are correct. At least with Nero Express I can burn mp3 files. But
if you have recorded into Audacity it is arguably preferable to export as .wav,
which is a lossless format. There will be some loss of quality when saving as
mp3, albeit that mp3 files at a high sample rate are pretty darn good.
Andrew
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:40 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
I doubt there is any reason that files need to be in the wave format. I don't
recall if I've burned MP3 files but I've never seen such a requirement
discussed and I'm more than skeptical. Burning programs have to convert the
files they are burning to the CD format so one original format should be able
to be burned as much as another. If someone has a lot of mp3 files he/she
wants to burn, why go through the trouble of converting them all to wave files?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Downie
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:45 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
I suspect the issue is with the MPEG format. While some newer CD players will
handle a variety of formats, older players expect the disk to be in the audio
CD format. Files to be burned should be in the .wav format at 16 bit and 44.1
Hz.
Some time ago I went through the frustration of investigating Media Player.
For me, it is not worth the tedium. I have an aging copy of Nero Express. To
burn a CD I simply put the .wav files, appropriately named, into an empty
folder. Having selected all files, I press Application Key and arrow to burn
with Nero. Then, follow a few prompts and the job is done.
If you want a free, accessible CD burner, I have positive reports about CD
Burner XP.
Andrew
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 17 December 2018 12:36 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Yes, I followed your steps and got a cd burned. It came out in something called
mpeg4 audio. It wouldn’t play on my stereo cd player though so don’t know why
not. I really appreciate all your help. Maybe I should send you a spindle of
cdrs, ssmile.
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:13 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
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Larry,
Does that mean you were successful? I killed all those CDs when I was learning
Windows 10 after finding it was different from Windows 7. Glad you got it done.
Steve
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:51 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
You did good. I got cds burned. Thanks for your use of your disks.
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 11:48 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Larry,
In step four the two choices are radio buttons so only one can be checked.
Which ever one is checked when you advance to the next button is what you will
end up with. You may try arrowing up and down between them then tabbing to the
next button. I have no idea what type of files end up burning onto the CD, I
always start out with MP3. I export all my Audacity work as MP3 but I doubt
that’s the issue. After hitting the next button in step four the Media player
should open. There have been times when I’ve had to shift tab to the media
player If it doesn’t show up right away. Once at the media player just tab
until you find the start burn button. I turned a lot of blank CD’s
Into little frisbies or drink coasters figuring this out. Maybe there’s
something off in your Media Player settings and I’m not sure what to tell you
on that. I just followed these steps and made a cd that I’m playing on a
portable boom box right now. Good luck and tell me if you get it. You may
also try the method the other gentleman suggested. One more thing, what kind
of CDs are you using? Blank or re-writable? I’ve never had luck with the CD RW
for anything other than data storage.
Steve
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:27 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Steve. I misspoke. The cd won’t play in winamp.
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:28 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Larry,
I’ve made some changes in my instructions. Step 4 is most likely where you had
a problem. Let me know if you get it this time.
1. install blank disc into drive.
2. Open album and select all songs you want burned Control+A.
3. open Application menue and enter on, Send To, then enter on the CD Drive.
The drive opens and asks which kind of disc to choose. Choose to use with a
CD player then tab to next. This will lead to a message that says You have
files ready to be burned to disc.
4. Open Application Menu and enter on Burn to disc. The first round in the
dialog has disc name and recording speed and I leave these on the defaults.
After hitting the Next button you have a choice to make. There are two
choices. Be sure to choose, Make an audio CD for standard CD players.
Hitting the Next button will take you to the Media Player.
5. Tab until you find the Start Burn button . Enter on this button and
you’re off to the races.
6. Go back to the drive, open Application menu and enter on Delete Tempory
Files to clear the files for the next burn.
Steve
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Redacted sender ;
"jojoafbmil" for DMARC
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:12 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Here is a link below you may find helpful
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-burn-a-cd/
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On Sunday, December 16, 2018 llumpkin <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Great. Thanks a lot. I’m not really a step-by-step person but I really
appreciate what you’re doing.
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:10 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Larry,
You’re getting close. I’ll play around with this a littleso I can word things
right and get back in a while.
Steve
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:42 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Steve, I must be doing something wrong. Here’s what I did.
1. navigated to the desired folder in file explorer.
2. opened the file.
3. selected all tracks.
4. Applicationed on it and selected send to and then my dvd/cd drive.
5. picked the cd radio button and went to next.
I never got to windows media player and the burn button. I could get the lot of
tracks to burn only by navigating to the dvd/cd drive in my computer and
application my way down to burn. I could only get m4a tracks when I’d really
like an audio cd playable on any cd player. Any ideas?
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve S (Redacted sender "sgsmg49" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:39 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Larry,
Here’s how to do it in Windows 10. I’d have to play around a bit to remember
how to do it with Windows 7. Good Luck.
Steve
1. install blank disc into drive.
2. Open album and select all songs you want burned Control+A.
3. open Application menue and enter on, Send To, then enter on the CD Drive.
The drive opens with a dialogue ending withfiles ready to be written to disc.
4. Open Application Menu and enter on Burn to disc. Go through the dialogue
and this eventually takes you to the Media player.
5. Tab a thousand times until you find the Start Burn button . Enter on this
button and you’re off to the races.
6. Go back to the drive, open Application menu and enter on Delete Tempory
Files to clear the files for the next burn.
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:45 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] how to burn a folder I've tagged in windows media
player
Well, I’ve gotten a beautifully tagged set of albums that winamp opens and
plays beautifully. I’ve been going round and roumd windows media player trying
to burn one. Can someone point me in the right direction using media player?
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