[audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc

  • From: Marlon Brandão de Sousa <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Keith Heltsley <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:02:57 -0300

Well x is your friend here.


It will put the cursor where you are listening at a given time.


I am still curious though on why the cursor does not track the play head ... I have something saying me that I am loosing a revolutionary technique of audio editing because I can not understand something that is common sense among audio editors of every daw I can think of at the moment.


On 25/08/2017 12:55, Keith Heltsley wrote:

What are the advantages of not having the cursor track the playback location?

For the sake of newbies who could use some training wheels, might it be possible to have a setting in Preferences to opt for playback tracking?

To restate my first question… Why would tracking the playback location of the cursor be a bad thing?

Trying to keep track of the cursor has been my biggest reason for not using Audacity much. Until recently, when I was forced to use it, due to not having software for the Mac that I typically have used on my Windows machines for years. .

Keith Heltsley
keith@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:keith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Bonita Blankenberg <bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Wow, that’s exactly the problem I’ve been grappling with. Could not for the life of me understand why I could not just pause and edit something, not realizing that the cursor is miles away from where I want it.
Makes me feel so much better, I am no techno smarty, so I really thought I’m missing something. Your description made it much more understandable.
Thanks Marlon,
Bonita
PS, I’d like to say I live up to my name, but that would sound vane,☺
B
*From:*Marlon Brandão de Sousa [mailto:splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:*Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:06 AM
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*Subject:*Re: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc

Sorry for the incorrect shift before x I should have tested. Coming from Mac OS where audacity is not updated (at least the accessible copy) I used shift + a and now it is only x.

One of the things I had more difficulty in understanding the way Audacity works is to separate selection boundaries of the cursor.

Folks,

Please do warn me if I am wrong.

The cursor is not selection dependent. The cursor is not track dependent. The cursor is a feature that may be anywhere between the absolute time range 0 to the last millisecond of the last track of the whole project.

Setting the selection, (specifying a start and an end boundaries of a piece of audio that might comprise more than one track) as far as I know, does not affect the cursor.

Also, at least as far as I could verify, the cursor is not affected by the play activity, meaning that you can be listening to a part of the audio and the cursor might be in a completely different spot. This is not the way newbies like me will imagine that because we do make a relation with a text editor where the cursor usually follows the text being read by the screen reader.

This is why when you pause with p and try to make operations related to the cursor you might end up messing stuff ... because the fact you have paused the audio does not mean that the cursor is where you are listening. In fact, what x does as far as I know is perform a pause and automatically put the cursor where you are listening.

Now as why this is not the default behavior I do not know ** note that this is not a criticism but ratter something I have been curious about as why someone would want the cursor in any point different than the place they are listening at the moment.

But anyways understanding these concepts that by the way I have not read anywhere, specially the fact that the cursor does not track what you are listening has helped me a lot on my still beginning work with audacity.


btw and slightly off-topic your name Bonita means beautiful woman in Portuguese, my native thong ... this is facinating .. I know many cases of names in a given idiom meaning words in others.

Thanks,
Marlon
On 24/08/2017 05:31, Bonita Blankenberg wrote:
Gentlemen
Let it be known!
You are my heroes! It works, eureke, it works! The X is my new best friend, thank you Marlon!
Have a lovely day,
Bonita
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*Subject:*[audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc

In this task X (shift + x) is your friend. It will place the cursor right where you are listening and also will pause the sound.

In previous versions of audacity it was shift + a,

On 23/08/2017 07:10, David Bailes wrote:
Hi Bonita,
you should be able to move the cursor to wherever you want to insert the audio, and then paste it there. Where are you wanting to insert some audio, and are not able to do so?
David.
On 22 August 2017 at 17:46, Bonita Blankenberg <bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello Listers
I do hope my mail finds you all well.
My apologies if I’m asking a question that has already been covered, I’m a newby user of Audacity.
My question is, how can I insert clips into a project without having to move to the end of the track? At the moment, I can only add things to an existing project, if I move my curser to the end of the track and then paste something.
Hope my question make sense.
I’m using Audacity with NVDA.
Your help will be valued.
Bonita


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