[audacity4blind] Re: Audacity 2.0 build for Mac

  • From: "John W. Hess" <wysiwygtechnologies@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:21:04 -0500

> Good evening David.Answers to your questions .below.

> Given that VoiceOver can't read the input slider, do you use the sound window 
> of system preferences to adjust the input volume? Gale has suggested 
> assigning a keystroke (for example ctrl+4) to adjust input gain in the 
> keyboard category of preferences. This then brings up an input volume dialog 
> which contains both an edit box and a slider. My feeling is that using system 
> preferences might be easier for new users of audacity.
> This is an excellent idea and although I haven't assigned the key I do use 
> system preferences. Question, how do you assign a key for that particular 
> function. I haven't played much with keyboard shortcuts and this would be 
> quite helpful to know.

> 2. When VoiceOver reads a text box containing a number, it just reads out a 
> series of digits, and doesn't read out if there's a minus sign, or if there 
> are decimal points in the number. For example, in the  amplification effect, 
> when VoiceOver reads the Amplification text box, it doesn't read any decimal 
> point. From what I remember, if you interact with the text box, you can arrow 
> through the characters in the text box, and all the characters are read, 
> although it reads a minus sign as dash.
> If you set punctuation to all you'll hear the dash and also the decimal  
> point. press control-option-v to open verbosity and then press right arrow 
> until you hear "punctuation".  Press down arrow to move through the choices 
> and enter or escape to exit the dialog.
> 3. Equalization effect. If the Graphic EQ radio button is checked, then 
> VoiceOver can interact with the sliders. It's strange that it can interact 
> with these sliders, but not the input/output sliders in the main window. 
> However, if you move a slider to a low value, like 0%, then it get's stuck 
> and you can't increase it beyond about 5%.
> I've noticed the stuck behavior and usually use page up or down to move in 
> larger increments. It would be good to have this corrected. Yes, I don't know 
> why the sliders don't work in the main window. Would be worth a look if 
> nothing else for the learning and understanding. Perhaps they are different 
> in some way in class?  I really appreciate the attention the mac build is now 
> getting. This is fantastic and Please! write if I can be of further help. 
> David.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: John W. Hess <wysiwygtechnologies@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012, 5:41
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Audacity 2.0 build for Mac
> 
> 
> Good evening David. I am a mac user and use the 2.0 accessible build that was 
> made available by leland. I have not tried the knightly builds. LEt me try to 
> answer your questions.
> 
> 1. With a track being the focus, if you change whether it is selected or mute 
> or solo, voiceover doesn't automatically read its updated state. I had to 
> move away and then back to it to get it to read this. Is there a voiceover 
> keystroke to read the current object so that the user doesn't have to move 
> away and then back? (like insert+up arrow in Jaws).
>> Control-Option-W is the command to do this. REmember for this to work you'll 
>> need to interact with the item that says "panel" and then interact with the 
>> scroll area within the panel.  Then control-w will read the track name and 
>> it's state weather it's selected, soloed or muted.
> 
> 
> 2. In the controls for selection start, selection end etc, if you use the 
> arrow keys to change the time, then voiceover doesn't automatically read 
> anything.It has ben that way since Leland started working on the accessible 
> builds. admittedly I didn't report this one because I found that using 
> Control-option-W would read the information adequately.  It would be nice to 
> have it read when the arrows were moved. Perhaps something that can be worked 
> on?
> 3. Voiceover didn't read the input or output sliders in the toolbars. It just 
> said multiple indicators.
>> I see the same thing here. Interacting with the slider doesn't help here to 
>> get the information. Would be nice to have this working.
> .
> 
> 4. In the metadata editor, voiceover couldn't read anything in the table.
>> Haven't used that at all.
>> My access to a mac is limited, but I'd be grateful if mac users of audacity 
>> would let me know if these are real problems, or if there's something I 
>> haven't done right.
>> They are definitely problems and if possible should be addressed.
> 
> 
> thanks,
>> David.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leland <leland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012, 0:38
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Audacity 2.0 build for Mac
>> 
>> The Mac accessibility patches have been applied to the main source and you 
>> should now be able to use the nightly builds to get quicker access to new 
>> features and help test (hint, hint :-)).
>> 
>> The nightly builds can be found at:
>> 
>> http://audacity.homerow.net/index.php?dir=mac
>> 
>> Leland
>> 
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