When it's docked should it appear in the toolbar tabbing order? I set
dock=1, closed and reopened Audacity, but it doesn't appear in the
toolbar tabbing order and the frame it was in is still there.
Gary
On 12/1/2016 6:42 AM, David Bailes wrote:
Hi Gary,
forgot to add re the combined meter. If you want to use it, in Audacity.cfg, under [GUI/ToolBars/CombinedMeter] if you set Dock=1 rather than 0, that should fix it.
David.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:37 PM, David Bailes <drbailes@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:drbailes@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Gary,
it looks like there's a bug with the combined toolbar. It's not
consistent, but depending on factors I haven't quite worked out
yet, it is sometimes not docked in the toolbars, but it floating.
You should be able to reach it by pressing alt+f6. I would just
stick to the separate recording and playback toolbars for the
moment. Audacity is currently frozen, so I can't try and fix it.
David.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Gary Campbell
<campg2003@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:campg2003@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Do you know where the combined toolbar went? I don't find it
when I tab through the toolbars.
Gary
On 11/30/2016 1:45 PM, Robert Hänggi wrote:
Hi Gary
The tool bars have lost there parent-children relationship.
instead of being on one level:
Panel | Tool dock | tool dock | time line
it is now
panel | panel2 | tool dock | frame | frame ...
with Panel 2 holding the second tool dock (all upper tool
bars) just
beside the time line (which should be a children of the
higher level
tool dock that holds the selection tool bar).
And open dialogs have changed too, including progress bar.
NVDA Addon site is not an option, they want to host there
own plug-ins.
Also, the source code is on BitBucket and I don't want to
have an
account there as well.
I will probably use Git-Hub.
The exact release date is not yet clear. We are currently
in freeze
(until 3. Dec approx) and just after that release
candidate one will
be issued.
Seems to become a X-mas present. I would wait those 3-4 weeks.
Robert
Robert
2016-11-30 18:05 GMT+01:00, Gary Campbell
<campg2003@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:campg2003@xxxxxxxxx>>:
How about the NVDA add-ons site?
Gary
On 11/28/2016 2:02 AM, Robert Hänggi wrote:
Thanks Cuong, I'm already working on it.
Packing and renaming is not the problem but rather
writing the help
file... ;)
Do you know where the add-on could permanently be
stored online?
Thanks
Robert
2016-11-28 8:24 GMT+01:00, Dang Manh Cuong
<dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>>:
Hi
Please send me your add-on at zip file,
including the manifest.ini that
containsinfo about your add-on. I'll package
it at*.nvda-addon file,
easily
for installing
Cuong.
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Here's what's in the user guide of NVDA:
9.4. Location of Configuration files
Portable versions of NVDA store all settings,
custom appModules and
custom drivers in a directory called
userConfig, found in the NVDA
directory.
Installed versions of NVDA store all settings,
custom appModules and
custom drivers in a special NVDA directory
located in your Windows
user profile. This means that each user on the
system can have their
own NVDA settings. To get to your settings
directory for an installed
version of NVDA, on the start menu you can go
to programs -> NVDA ->
explore user configuration directory.
Settings for NVDA when running on the logon or
UAC screens are stored
in the systemConfig directory in NVDA's
installation directory.
Usually, this configuration should not be
touched. To change NVDA's
configuration on the logon/UAC screens,
configure NVDA as you wish
while logged into Windows, save the
configuration, and then press the
"Use currently saved settings on the logon and
other secure screens"
button in the General Settings dialog.
Does this help?
Robert
2016-11-28 5:58 GMT+01:00, Robert Hänggi
<aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>>:
Just search for "audacity.py" in the
search box of the explorer.
(on win7:
Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled
Windows+e, Control+e, "audacity.py".
This should list all instances.
Rename the files with *.pyc to *.pyb.
open the folders where those files are
situated (context
menu->containing folder) and paste my file
there.
Restart NVDA with add-ons enabled.
I don't think that the layout should much
differ but who knows.
For the worst case, I can pack the file
and you can install it with
the add-on manager.
But I have to read up the procedure first.
Robert
2016-11-28 1:12 GMT+01:00, Autery
<autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Lol,
I have no luck finding that file.
Programx86/NVDA/userconf/appmodule..
My NVDA is not setup this way..
I have the latest NVDA not the
overnight built.
Would this my layout different?
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for NVDA
Usually, there's a file "audacity.pyc"
and the c stands for
"compiled".
My file isn't compiled and should work
as is.
There's another audacity.pyc under
program files
(x86)->NVDA->userConfig->appModules.
Rename that too (the *.pyb that I've
proposed stands for backup).
You could of course also move those
files to another folder.
The only purpose of the original app
module is to ensure that Audacity
doesn't speak the ampersand symbol '&'
in e.g dialog buttons.
Naturally, this is included in my file
too. In other words, you could
ass
well delete the old *.pic files.
Don't forget to restart NVDA.
NVDA+Control+F1 tells you the
application with focus and if a module
has been loaded.
Robert
PS. The add on is designed for the
English version of Audacity.
2016-11-27 22:53 GMT+01:00, Autery
<autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Thank you!
However, I am a little confuse.
The file you sent me.py
I drop this in nvda app module and
which file to I rename to .pyb???
Because I tried it and had no
luck. Lol hahah
Thanks!
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OK, like promised, here is the Add-on:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wnb71hz33yvygs/audacity.py?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wnb71hz33yvygs/audacity.py?dl=0>
As I said before, it has to be
copied in a folder that looks like
this:
"C:\Users\Robert
Hänggi\AppData\Roaming\nvda\appModules\"
"audacity.py" replaces the
already existing audacity.pyc file
(rename
the latter to e.g. audacity.pyb).
It may also be in another place
where it has to be replaced as well.
Restart NVDA or press NVDA+Control+F3.
Start Audacity.
Things I've forgot to mention earlier:
F7 reports the names of the tool
bars. Some features require the tool
bars to be enabled, for instance
the playback gain can only be read
if
the play meter tool bar is enabled
(view menu).
NVDA+page up and -down simulates
the mouse wheel--not really
necessary
for most users.
NVDA+i reports the column where
the cursor stands in a edit box. This
is mainly for the Nyquist prompt
to get the indentations right.
As you know, you can change the
selection start/end/length with the
controls of the selection tool bar
by pressing up or down arrow.
What I've added:
If you hold shift while doing
that, a short preview of the new
position will be played.
For instance: you can swiftly go
through an audio book by navigating
to the minute or 10 minute field
and press Shift+up/down.
The other hotkeys have been
described in an earlier message.
However,
you can of course call the input
gesture dialog and look them up
(NVDA+n, p, n) or search them
manually by toggling keyboard help
on/off
(NVDA+1).
I hope the add-on will work with
your NVDA and Audacity versions.
I recommend the 2.1.3 Alpha
version or the new Audacity
release that
is due at the end of the year.
Suggestions and questions are
appreciated.
Robert
2016-11-27 22:03 GMT+01:00, Robert
Hänggi <aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>>:
You have to rebuild Audacity
yourself each time that you
want a new
version.
That's not very hard to do though.
The hardest part is to install
all for the first time, including
VisualStudio, Git-Hub, the
ASIO SDK, WxWidgets and the
Audacity
source code.
Robert
2016-11-27 5:36 GMT+01:00,
Autery
<autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Once you add asio to one
version of audacity, if
there is an
update;
do you have to add asio
all over again to the new
version?
Or does the new version
includes the old version
asio into the new
changes?
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Re: Add-ons for NVDA
No costs, it's fully free.
My build has ASIO but I
rarely use it.
I'm fairly satisfied with
Wasapi and its 24-bit
recording depth.
The changes have more to
do with e.g. label tracks
and automatic
track information for
imported files with an
unusual format, such
as
8000 Hz at
8
bit.
And there's some debugging
information as well.
Robert
2016-11-26 17:59
GMT+01:00, Autery
<autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Ok cool!
How much it cost??
And when you said you
have a custom Audacity
built, what do you
mean?
Did you add ASIO??
Did you add other
function to Audacity
beside ASio??
Thanks
Autery Weekes
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Thanks very much for
the interest.
I'm preparing the
addon for you.
I try to make it ready
for Audacity 2.1.3
Unfortunately, the
window
hierarchy of the new
release has changed
and I have to compensate
for this.
However, I think it
should be ready
tomorrow evening.
Hold the line...
Robert
2016-11-22 18:28
GMT+01:00, Vitor Ferreira
<vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
Hello.
I also think that
this addon would
be very
interesting for me.
Could you make it
available? Many
thanks.
Vitor
Às 12:09 de
22/11/2016, Autery
escreveu:
Ok cool!
Sounds great...
You said you
got a special
build of
Audacity???
Cool!!!
ASIO included??
I wish I could
do that lol
hahahaha....
I would be
interestedin
the NVDA addon.
Thanks
Autery
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for NVDA
Hi Autery
There do not
exist official
Addons but
some private
attempts.
I have written
my own one but
it is without
installer. This
means
that you have
to put the
*.py file
manually at
the appropriate
place.
(e.g. at
"C:\Users<your
name>AppData\Roaming\nvda\appModules\audacity.py")
It has
certainly less
features than
the
corresponding JAWS
script.
Here are some
features:
1. The
additional
(key) commands
can be viewed
within the input
gesture dialog
of NVDA
[NVDA+n,p,n],
under "Audacity.
Some do not
work because
I've got a
special build
of Audacity
and
I'll omit them
here.
2. NVDA+e
pressed
ones, reports
the selected
tracks.
twice
pressed,
reports all
muted tracks pressed three
times,
reports all
tracks that
are soloed.
3. Page Up/Down
Jumps 3
tracks up or down.
4. NVDA+a
Reports
current audio
position,
during stop or
playback (or
recording...).
5. NVDA+j
Reports
the selection
start
6. NVDA+k
Reports
the selection
end or says
"long" if
"Length" is
chosen
in the
selection tool
bar.
Those
three commands
omit
automatically
unnecessary
zeros and
alike, for
instance
02:00:22.300
gives two
hours 22.3
seconds.
Pressing those
shortcuts
quickly two
times in
succession spells
the values.
6. F9 or F10
reports
the playback
or recording
peak respectively.
7. NVDA+volume
down/up
extends or
contracts the
left selection
boundary and
plays a
preview from
this position.
8.
NVDA+shift+volume
up/down
extends or
contracts the
right
selection
boundary and
plays a
preview from
this position,
i.e. a bit of
what comes
after the
selection.
9. Pause (on
the keyboard)
key to tap
a tempo. A
high click
means that the
measurement
has
started.
Tap eight or
more times to
"catch" the
tempo. A
longer delay
resets the
measurement.
Use the next
key
combination to
read the
measured
tempo:
10. NVDA+pause
pressed
once,
announces the
measured tempo
in beats per
minutes, i.e.
128.7.
If you're
in the input
box of the
click track
(or rhythm
track)
of Audacity's
generate menu,
this value
will automatically
inserted.
Pressed
twice,
announces it
in classical
tempo description,
for
instance
"Largo",
"Andante" or
"Presto"
11. Key for
context menu
opens
directly on
the first item
of a track's
drop down menu,
for audio
tracks, this
would be
"name". In
general, this
add-on
avoids
unnecessary
information
such as
"Audacity->Panel->Track
view->Track
one, when e.g.
switching from
another
application or
the tool bars
and speaks
just "track one".
I think that
covers the
main points.
Note: A
description of
the commands
is also
available with
NVDA's
input help
enabled
(NVDA+1 toggle).
Tell me if
this add-on
could be of
any help to
you or if you
would like to
have another
feature added.
Robert
2016-11-18
23:20
GMT+01:00,
Autery
<autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Hello
everyone,
Is there
any
Audacity
add-ons
for NVDA?
If yes,
where
could I
find them?
Thanks in
advance!!
Autery Weekes
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