Hi Gary
The tool bars have lost there parent-children relationship.
instead of being on one level:
Panel | Tool dock | tool dock | time line
it is now
panel | panel2 | tool dock | frame | frame ...
with Panel 2 holding the second tool dock (all upper tool bars) just
beside the time line (which should be a children of the higher level
tool dock that holds the selection tool bar).
And open dialogs have changed too, including progress bar.
NVDA Addon site is not an option, they want to host there own plug-ins.
Also, the source code is on BitBucket and I don't want to have an
account there as well.
I will probably use Git-Hub.
The exact release date is not yet clear. We are currently in freeze
(until 3. Dec approx) and just after that release candidate one will
be issued.
Seems to become a X-mas present. I would wait those 3-4 weeks.
Robert
Robert
2016-11-30 18:05 GMT+01:00, Gary Campbell <campg2003@xxxxxxxxx>:
How about the NVDA add-ons site?
Gary
On 11/28/2016 2:02 AM, Robert Hänggi wrote:
Thanks Cuong, I'm already working on it.
Packing and renaming is not the problem but rather writing the help
file... ;)
Do you know where the add-on could permanently be stored online?
Thanks
Robert
2016-11-28 8:24 GMT+01:00, Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>:
HiThe audacity4blind web site is at
Please send me your add-on at zip file, including the manifest.ini that
containsinfo about your add-on. I'll package it at*.nvda-addon file,
easily
for installing
Cuong.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hänggi" <aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
Here's what's in the user guide of NVDA:
9.4. Location of Configuration files
Portable versions of NVDA store all settings, custom appModules and
custom drivers in a directory called userConfig, found in the NVDA
directory.
Installed versions of NVDA store all settings, custom appModules and
custom drivers in a special NVDA directory located in your Windows
user profile. This means that each user on the system can have their
own NVDA settings. To get to your settings directory for an installed
version of NVDA, on the start menu you can go to programs -> NVDA ->
explore user configuration directory.
Settings for NVDA when running on the logon or UAC screens are stored
in the systemConfig directory in NVDA's installation directory.
Usually, this configuration should not be touched. To change NVDA's
configuration on the logon/UAC screens, configure NVDA as you wish
while logged into Windows, save the configuration, and then press the
"Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens"
button in the General Settings dialog.
Does this help?
Robert
2016-11-28 5:58 GMT+01:00, Robert Hänggi <aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>:
Just search for "audacity.py" in the search box of the explorer.The audacity4blind web site is at
(on win7:
Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled
Windows+e, Control+e, "audacity.py".
This should list all instances.
Rename the files with *.pyc to *.pyb.
open the folders where those files are situated (context
menu->containing folder) and paste my file there.
Restart NVDA with add-ons enabled.
I don't think that the layout should much differ but who knows.
For the worst case, I can pack the file and you can install it with
the add-on manager.
But I have to read up the procedure first.
Robert
2016-11-28 1:12 GMT+01:00, Autery <autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Lol,
I have no luck finding that file.
Programx86/NVDA/userconf/appmodule.. My NVDA is not setup this way..
I have the latest NVDA not the overnight built.
Would this my layout different?
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Hänggi
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:19 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
Usually, there's a file "audacity.pyc" and the c stands for
"compiled".
My file isn't compiled and should work as is.
There's another audacity.pyc under program files
(x86)->NVDA->userConfig->appModules.
Rename that too (the *.pyb that I've proposed stands for backup).
You could of course also move those files to another folder.
The only purpose of the original app module is to ensure that Audacity
doesn't speak the ampersand symbol '&' in e.g dialog buttons.
Naturally, this is included in my file too. In other words, you could
ass
well delete the old *.pic files.
Don't forget to restart NVDA.
NVDA+Control+F1 tells you the application with focus and if a module
has been loaded.
Robert
PS. The add on is designed for the English version of Audacity.
2016-11-27 22:53 GMT+01:00, Autery <autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Thank you!The audacity4blind web site is at
However, I am a little confuse.
The file you sent me.py
I drop this in nvda app module and which file to I rename to .pyb???
Because I tried it and had no luck. Lol hahah
Thanks!
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Hänggi
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:35 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
OK, like promised, here is the Add-on:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wnb71hz33yvygs/audacity.py?dl=0
As I said before, it has to be copied in a folder that looks like
this:
"C:\Users\Robert Hänggi\AppData\Roaming\nvda\appModules\"
"audacity.py" replaces the already existing audacity.pyc file
(rename
the latter to e.g. audacity.pyb). It may also be in another place
where it has to be replaced as well.
Restart NVDA or press NVDA+Control+F3.
Start Audacity.
Things I've forgot to mention earlier:
F7 reports the names of the tool bars. Some features require the tool
bars to be enabled, for instance the playback gain can only be read
if
the play meter tool bar is enabled (view menu).
NVDA+page up and -down simulates the mouse wheel--not really
necessary
for most users.
NVDA+i reports the column where the cursor stands in a edit box. This
is mainly for the Nyquist prompt to get the indentations right.
As you know, you can change the selection start/end/length with the
controls of the selection tool bar by pressing up or down arrow.
What I've added:
If you hold shift while doing that, a short preview of the new
position will be played.
For instance: you can swiftly go through an audio book by navigating
to the minute or 10 minute field and press Shift+up/down.
The other hotkeys have been described in an earlier message. However,
you can of course call the input gesture dialog and look them up
(NVDA+n, p, n) or search them manually by toggling keyboard help
on/off
(NVDA+1).
I hope the add-on will work with your NVDA and Audacity versions.
I recommend the 2.1.3 Alpha version or the new Audacity release that
is due at the end of the year.
Suggestions and questions are appreciated.
Robert
2016-11-27 22:03 GMT+01:00, Robert Hänggi <aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>:
You have to rebuild Audacity yourself each time that you want a newThe audacity4blind web site is at
version.
That's not very hard to do though.
The hardest part is to install all for the first time, including
VisualStudio, Git-Hub, the ASIO SDK, WxWidgets and the Audacity
source code.
Robert
2016-11-27 5:36 GMT+01:00, Autery <autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Once you add asio to one version of audacity, if there is an
update;
do you have to add asio all over again to the new version?
Or does the new version includes the old version asio into the new
changes?
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Hänggi
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:32 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
No costs, it's fully free.
My build has ASIO but I rarely use it.
I'm fairly satisfied with Wasapi and its 24-bit recording depth.
The changes have more to do with e.g. label tracks and automatic
track information for imported files with an unusual format, such
as
8000 Hz at
8
bit.
And there's some debugging information as well.
Robert
2016-11-26 17:59 GMT+01:00, Autery <autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Ok cool!The audacity4blind web site is at
How much it cost??
And when you said you have a custom Audacity built, what do you
mean?
Did you add ASIO??
Did you add other function to Audacity beside ASio??
Thanks
Autery Weekes
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Hänggi
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:56 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
Thanks very much for the interest.
I'm preparing the addon for you.
I try to make it ready for Audacity 2.1.3 Unfortunately, the
window
hierarchy of the new release has changed and I have to compensate
for this.
However, I think it should be ready tomorrow evening.
Hold the line...
Robert
2016-11-22 18:28 GMT+01:00, Vitor Ferreira
<vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>:
Hello.The audacity4blind web site is at
I also think that this addon would be very interesting for me.
Could you make it available? Many thanks.
Vitor
Às 12:09 de 22/11/2016, Autery escreveu:
Ok cool!
Sounds great...
You said you got a special build of Audacity??? Cool!!!
ASIO included??
I wish I could do that lol hahahaha....
I would be interestedin the NVDA addon.
Thanks
Autery
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
Hänggi
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:30 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Add-ons for NVDA
Hi Autery
There do not exist official Addons but some private attempts.
I have written my own one but it is without installer. This
means
that you have to put the *.py file manually at the appropriate
place.
(e.g. at "C:\Users<your
name>AppData\Roaming\nvda\appModules\audacity.py")
It has certainly less features than the corresponding JAWS
script.
Here are some features:
1. The additional (key) commands can be viewed within the input
gesture dialog of NVDA [NVDA+n,p,n], under "Audacity.
Some do not work because I've got a special build of Audacity
and
I'll omit them here.
2. NVDA+e
pressed ones, reports the selected tracks.
twice pressed, reports all muted tracks pressed three times,
reports all tracks that are soloed.
3. Page Up/Down
Jumps 3 tracks up or down.
4. NVDA+a
Reports current audio position, during stop or playback (or
recording...).
5. NVDA+j
Reports the selection start
6. NVDA+k
Reports the selection end or says "long" if "Length" is
chosen
in the selection tool bar.
Those three commands omit automatically unnecessary zeros and
alike, for instance 02:00:22.300 gives two hours 22.3 seconds.
Pressing those shortcuts quickly two times in succession spells
the values.
6. F9 or F10
reports the playback or recording peak respectively.
7. NVDA+volume down/up
extends or contracts the left selection boundary and plays a
preview from this position.
8. NVDA+shift+volume up/down
extends or contracts the right selection boundary and plays a
preview from this position, i.e. a bit of what comes after the
selection.
9. Pause (on the keyboard)
key to tap a tempo. A high click means that the measurement
has
started.
Tap eight or more times to "catch" the tempo. A longer delay
resets the measurement. Use the next key combination to read the
measured
tempo:
10. NVDA+pause
pressed once, announces the measured tempo in beats per
minutes, i.e.
128.7.
If you're in the input box of the click track (or rhythm
track)
of Audacity's generate menu, this value will automatically
inserted.
Pressed twice, announces it in classical tempo description,
for
instance "Largo", "Andante" or "Presto"
11. Key for context menu
opens directly on the first item of a track's drop down menu,
for audio tracks, this would be "name". In general, this add-on
avoids unnecessary information such as "Audacity->Panel->Track
view->Track one, when e.g.
switching from another application or the tool bars and speaks
just "track one".
I think that covers the main points.
Note: A description of the commands is also available with
NVDA's
input help enabled (NVDA+1 toggle).
Tell me if this add-on could be of any help to you or if you
would like to have another feature added.
Robert
2016-11-18 23:20 GMT+01:00, Autery <autery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Hello everyone,The audacity4blind web site is at
Is there any Audacity add-ons for NVDA?
If yes, where could I find them?
Thanks in advance!!
Autery Weekes
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