[audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem

  • From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:35:22 -0600

Apologies for keep coming back.
It's almost like a sink locked tracks command if it worked even wen
they aren't locked. Otherwise, it's the same idea. All tracks play at
once, all selections effect everything in the project, etc.

On 9/8/13, Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Nope, still persists. I use the brackets to select audio and both
> tracks move even if only the one is selected and I hit align with
> cursor.
>
> On 9/8/13, Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> When you set the left boundary, don't forget to use the Align With Cursor
>> command.
>> Personally I only work with brackets if I want to select very long
>> passages, which is rare. If you simply want to move a track to a certain
>> position, play the project and press shift-A where you want that track to
>> begin. Make sure only that track is selected and use Tracks > Align With
>> Cursor.
>>
>> Cheers, Robbie
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Lueck
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:56 PM
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
>>
>> After trying 3 versions of Audacity with the latest installed on my
>> computer, the selection problem still ersists. I know it's something I'm
>> not getting, but I can't figure it out.
>>
>> As a reminder, every track is selected even if the selection is off for
>> every one aside from a single track. Every track plays at the same time
>> and every track moves at the same time I stop them at.
>>
>> On 8/17/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx> Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:40:04
>>> | -0600
>>> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>>>> I tried the steps and it didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> I aligned the cursor with the selected track and selected a time, and
>>>> the other track that I didn't select before still selected the same
>>>> time as the other.
>>>
>>> As I stated in my previous reply, Audacity only has one time range or
>>> cursor position in each project window. So yes the cursor or selection
>>> will move in all the tracks when you use left or right bracket.
>>>
>>> David's experiment should prove to you that only the selected track
>>> moves when you do the align.
>>>
>>> When you move the selected track using the align command this means
>>> that you have to select the other track then use J to move the
>>> playback position back to the start of that track.
>>>
>>> After pressing J, use left bracket to confirm the start point of that
>>> track is still the same as before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gale
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also, I've found a friend has this exact problem with version 2.03
>>>> and we both have not done anything to mess with the preferences.
>>>>
>>>> I apologize for being unclear, but please know that I have tried the
>>>> suggestions and it hasn't worked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx> Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:40:06
>>>> > | -0600
>>>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>>>> >> I'm sorry I'm not being clear enough.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> When I use the left bracket on a track to adjust the starting
>>>> >> time, any other tracks selected or otherwise move on the time I
>>>> >> just selected.
>>>> >
>>>> > No other tracks move when using left bracket [ . All left and right
>>>> > bracket do is to move the cursor or the selection.
>>>> >
>>>> > Audacity only has one time range in each project window. So yes the
>>>> > cursor or selection will move in all the tracks. Using an older
>>>> > version of Audacity will not change that.
>>>> >
>>>> > If your desire is to move a selected track, what goes wrong when
>>>> > you use Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor as suggested?
>>>> > Here are steps that might help.
>>>> >
>>>> > 1 Select the track you want to move. Deselect all other tracks.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2 If you have a selection in the project that you don't want,
>>>> >    press HOME on your keyboard to remove that selection. This
>>>> >    is optional. The Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor
>>>> >    command that you are about to use will align the selected
>>>> >    track(s) with either the cursor or with the start of the
>>>> >    selection. The cursor or selection will not move.
>>>> >
>>>> > 3 Use left bracket and enter the time at which you want the
>>>> >    selected track to start. Press OK.
>>>> >
>>>> > 4 Choose Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor. The selected
>>>> >    track now starts at the time you chose but the unselected tracks
>>>> >    stay where they were.
>>>> >
>>>> > The above works in Audacity 2.0.3 from:
>>>> > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/ .
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> just noticed that I am unable to copy a track or apply an effect.
>>>> >
>>>> > Try pressing SPACE to stop playback or recording.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Gale
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 8/15/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx> Wed, 14 Aug 2013
>>>> >> > | 18:47:47 -0600
>>>> >> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>>>> >> >> Alas, the other track always stays at the same selection the
>>>> >> >> selected track is on.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > When doing what? Please give us steps to reproduce the problem
>>>> >> > then we may be able to see what the problem is.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Even when no tracks are selected, both tracks play at the same
>>>> >> >> time
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It's by design that audibility depends on solo/mute status and
>>>> >> > not on selectedness.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> and both move together when selected.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I don't want to seem cynical, but I'm beginning to think this
>>>> >> >> can't be resolved. And it's been this way ever since I
>>>> >> >> downloaded the latest version.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If there is a problem you're the only one to have found it, so
>>>> >> > we need to know how to recreate it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > To answer your other question, you can't use Time Shift Tool
>>>> >> > without a mouse, but there is an alternative here:
>>>> >> > http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Time_S
>>>> >> > hifter
>>>> >> > .
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Gale
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Thanks for the help thus far guys, there might yet be a way out
>>>> >> >> of this.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On 8/13/13, David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > Hi Eric,
>>>> >> >> > you say that you selected a track, and tried to select a time.
>>>> >> >> > What
>>>> >> >> > did
>>>> >> >> > you
>>>> >> >> > do to select a time?
>>>> >> >> > You can time shift a track by using one of the commands on
>>>> >> >> > the Align tracks sub menu, which is on the tracks menu. For
>>>> >> >> > example:
>>>> >> >> > 1. Move the cursor to where you want the audio to start. You
>>>> >> >> > can do this for example by using the [ key during playback,
>>>> >> >> > and then pressing spacebar to stop.
>>>> >> >> > 2. Open the tracks menu, open the align tracks sub menu, and
>>>> >> >> > choose align with cursor. The audio in the selected tracks
>>>> >> >> > will be time shifted so that it starts at the cursor
>>>> >> >> > position. Any tracks which are not selected will be
>>>> >> >> > unaffected.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > David.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >> > Cc:
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 17:28
>>>> >> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Well, I unchecked sink locked tracks, slected a track and
>>>> >> >> > tried to select a time. After doing so, the unselected track
>>>> >> >> > automatically moves with the selected track.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I've heard something about a timeshift tool which might be
>>>> >> >> > helpful, but I don't know what it does or if I have one.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Sorry if I'm being unclear.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On 8/11/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx> Sat, 10 Aug 2013
>>>> >> >> >> | 14:02:43 -0600
>>>> >> >> >> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>>>> >> >> >>> For some reason, the time problem persists. I'm not so sure
>>>> >> >> >>> now it's a sinked problem, as it is like this by default
>>>> >> >> >>> when I got the latest version. Does anyone have this
>>>> >> >> >>> problem with the latest?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Can you write out steps to reproduce the problem?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> How are you time shifting the tracks?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Gale
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> On 8/4/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > | From Johchi <Johchi@xxxxxxxxxx> Sat, 03 Aug 2013
>>>> >> >> >>> > | 14:39:45 -0400
>>>> >> >> >>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>>>> >> >> >>> >> David,
>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> >> This too is another informative post.  I wonder if the
>>>> >> >> >>> >> Audacity developers
>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> >> ever thought of having a bunch of tips to come up for
>>>> >> >> >>> >> new Audacity users.
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > What is your suggestion - Tip of the Day or something
>>>> >> >> >>> > like that?
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > Generally it is best to use the documentation:
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > Audacity Manual:
>>>> >> >> >>> > http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > David's JAWS Guide:
>>>> >> >> >>> > http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2
>>>> >> >> >>> > .0.3-Guide.html
>>>> >> >> >>> > .
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > Gale
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> On 8/3/2013 5:46 AM, David Bailes wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > Hi Eric,
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > if you are using one of the commands on the align to
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > sub menu which
>>>> >> >> >>> >> is on the tracks menu, then only the selected tracks
>>>> >> >> >>> >> should move.
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > One exception to this is if the Sync-Lock Tracks
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > option on the tracks
>>>> >> >> >>> >> menu is checked. If this is the case then if one or more
>>>> >> >> >>> >> tracks are selected, then all the tracks will move.
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >   > David.
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > Cc:
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 3:59
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] A Timing Problem
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > This has probably been answered before, but I couldn't
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > find the solution in an Audacity  wiki or any of the
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > forums, so I hope to find one here.
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > I have the latest version, 2.03 I think it is. Anyway,
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > my problem is that my tracks are automatically aligned
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > and shift in the same time for both when I try
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > adjusting. I've tried deselecting tracks and switching
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > the times on those, but with no success. So does
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > anyone know how I can change time on an individual
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > track without effecting any others?
>>>> >> >> >>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>> >> > Thanks.
>>>
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