[audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
- From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:55:46 -0600
After trying 3 versions of Audacity with the latest installed on my
computer, the selection problem still ersists. I know it's something
I'm not getting, but I can't figure it out.
As a reminder, every track is selected even if the selection is off
for every one aside from a single track. Every track plays at the same
time and every track moves at the same time I stop them at.
On 8/17/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
> | Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:40:04 -0600
> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> I tried the steps and it didn't work.
>>
>> I aligned the cursor with the selected track and selected a time, and
>> the other track that I didn't select before still selected the same
>> time as the other.
>
> As I stated in my previous reply, Audacity only has one time range
> or cursor position in each project window. So yes the cursor or
> selection will move in all the tracks when you use left or right
> bracket.
>
> David's experiment should prove to you that only the selected
> track moves when you do the align.
>
> When you move the selected track using the align command this
> means that you have to select the other track then use J to
> move the playback position back to the start of that track.
>
> After pressing J, use left bracket to confirm the start point of
> that track is still the same as before.
>
>
>
> Gale
>
>
>> Also, I've found a friend has this exact problem with version 2.03
>> and we both have not done anything to mess with the
>> preferences.
>>
>> I apologize for being unclear, but please know that I have tried the
>> suggestions and it hasn't worked.
>>
>>
>> On 8/16/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > | Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:40:06 -0600
>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> I'm sorry I'm not being clear enough.
>> >>
>> >> When I use the left bracket on a track to adjust the starting time,
>> >> any other tracks selected or otherwise move on the time I just
>> >> selected.
>> >
>> > No other tracks move when using left bracket [ . All left and
>> > right bracket do is to move the cursor or the selection.
>> >
>> > Audacity only has one time range in each project window. So
>> > yes the cursor or selection will move in all the tracks. Using an
>> > older version of Audacity will not change that.
>> >
>> > If your desire is to move a selected track, what goes wrong when
>> > you use Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor as suggested?
>> > Here are steps that might help.
>> >
>> > 1 Select the track you want to move. Deselect all other tracks.
>> >
>> > 2 If you have a selection in the project that you don't want,
>> > press HOME on your keyboard to remove that selection. This
>> > is optional. The Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor
>> > command that you are about to use will align the selected
>> > track(s) with either the cursor or with the start of the
>> > selection. The cursor or selection will not move.
>> >
>> > 3 Use left bracket and enter the time at which you want the
>> > selected track to start. Press OK.
>> >
>> > 4 Choose Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor. The selected
>> > track now starts at the time you chose but the unselected tracks
>> > stay where they were.
>> >
>> > The above works in Audacity 2.0.3 from:
>> > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/ .
>> >
>> >
>> >> just noticed that I am unable to copy a track or apply an effect.
>> >
>> > Try pressing SPACE to stop playback or recording.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gale
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 8/15/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > | Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:47:47 -0600
>> >> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> >> Alas, the other track always stays at the same selection the
>> >> >> selected
>> >> >> track is on.
>> >> >
>> >> > When doing what? Please give us steps to reproduce the problem
>> >> > then we may be able to see what the problem is.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Even when no tracks are selected, both tracks play at the
>> >> >> same time
>> >> >
>> >> > It's by design that audibility depends on solo/mute status and
>> >> > not on selectedness.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> and both move together when selected.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't want to seem cynical, but I'm beginning to think this can't
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> resolved. And it's been this way ever since I downloaded the latest
>> >> >> version.
>> >> >
>> >> > If there is a problem you're the only one to have found it, so we
>> >> > need to know how to recreate it.
>> >> >
>> >> > To answer your other question, you can't use Time Shift Tool
>> >> > without a mouse, but there is an alternative here:
>> >> > http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Time_Shifter
>> >> > .
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Gale
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thanks for the help thus far guys, there might yet be a way out of
>> >> >> this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 8/13/13, David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi Eric,
>> >> >> > you say that you selected a track, and tried to select a time.
>> >> >> > What
>> >> >> > did
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > do to select a time?
>> >> >> > You can time shift a track by using one of the commands on the
>> >> >> > Align
>> >> >> > tracks
>> >> >> > sub menu, which is on the tracks menu. For example:
>> >> >> > 1. Move the cursor to where you want the audio to start. You can
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > example by using the [ key during playback, and then pressing
>> >> >> > spacebar
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > stop.
>> >> >> > 2. Open the tracks menu, open the align tracks sub menu, and
>> >> >> > choose
>> >> >> > align
>> >> >> > with cursor. The audio in the selected tracks will be time
>> >> >> > shifted
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it starts at the cursor position. Any tracks which are not
>> >> >> > selected
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > unaffected.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > David.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Cc:
>> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 17:28
>> >> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well, I unchecked sink locked tracks, slected a track and tried
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > select a time. After doing so, the unselected track automatically
>> >> >> > moves with the selected track.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I've heard something about a timeshift tool which might be
>> >> >> > helpful,
>> >> >> > but I don't know what it does or if I have one.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sorry if I'm being unclear.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 8/11/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >> | Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:43 -0600
>> >> >> >> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> >> >>> For some reason, the time problem persists. I'm not so sure now
>> >> >> >>> it's
>> >> >> >>> a
>> >> >> >>> sinked problem, as it is like this by default when I got the
>> >> >> >>> latest
>> >> >> >>> version. Does anyone have this problem with the latest?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can you write out steps to reproduce the problem?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> How are you time shifting the tracks?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Gale
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On 8/4/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > | From Johchi <Johchi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >>> > | Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:39:45 -0400
>> >> >> >>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> >> >>> >> David,
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> This too is another informative post. I wonder if the
>> >> >> >>> >> Audacity
>> >> >> >>> >> developers
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> ever thought of having a bunch of tips to come up for new
>> >> >> >>> >> Audacity
>> >> >> >>> >> users.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > What is your suggestion - Tip of the Day or something like
>> >> >> >>> > that?
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Generally it is best to use the documentation:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Audacity Manual:
>> >> >> >>> > http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > David's JAWS Guide:
>> >> >> >>> > http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.0.3-Guide.html
>> >> >> >>> > .
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Gale
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> On 8/3/2013 5:46 AM, David Bailes wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> > Hi Eric,
>> >> >> >>> >> > if you are using one of the commands on the align to sub
>> >> >> >>> >> > menu
>> >> >> >>> >> > which
>> >> >> >>> >> is on the tracks menu, then only the selected tracks should
>> >> >> >>> >> move.
>> >> >> >>> >> > One exception to this is if the Sync-Lock Tracks option on
>> >> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> > tracks
>> >> >> >>> >> menu is checked. If this is the case then if one or more
>> >> >> >>> >> tracks
>> >> >> >>> >> are
>> >> >> >>> >> selected, then all the tracks will move.
>> >> >> >>> >> > > David.
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >>> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> >>> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >>> >> > Cc:
>> >> >> >>> >> > Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 3:59
>> >> >> >>> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] A Timing Problem
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > This has probably been answered before, but I couldn't
>> >> >> >>> >> > find
>> >> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >> >>> >> > solution in an Audacity wiki or any of the forums, so I
>> >> >> >>> >> > hope
>> >> >> >>> >> > to
>> >> >> >>> >> > find
>> >> >> >>> >> > one here.
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > I have the latest version, 2.03 I think it is. Anyway, my
>> >> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >> >>> >> > is
>> >> >> >>> >> > that my tracks are automatically aligned and shift in the
>> >> >> >>> >> > same
>> >> >> >>> >> > time
>> >> >> >>> >> > for both when I try adjusting. I've tried deselecting
>> >> >> >>> >> > tracks
>> >> >> >>> >> > and
>> >> >> >>> >> > switching the times on those, but with no success. So does
>> >> >> >>> >> > anyone
>> >> >> >>> >> > know
>> >> >> >>> >> > how I can change time on an individual track without
>> >> >> >>> >> > effecting
>> >> >> >>> >> > any
>> >> >> >>> >> > others?
>> >> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> >> > Thanks.
>
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