Re: [artworks] PDF: When black isn't really black

  • From: "Mr. A P Harmsworth" <aph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <artworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:51:42 +0100

Sorry for butting in, but I used to get a weekly summary of this list. I
now get it automatically each post!

How do I instruct the list server to go back?


 A P Harmsworth MA FRAS MRI            mailto:aph@xxxxxxxxxxx
 Head of Physics
 The Leys School                       Telephone 01223 508933
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-----Original Message-----
From: artworks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:artworks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
Sent: 09 May 2006 11:46
To: artworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [artworks] PDF: When black isn't really black

In message <446070DA.2020000@xxxxxxxx>
          Clive Bonsall <C.Bonsall@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>> In message <4460637A.4020503@xxxxxxxx>
>>           Clive Bonsall <C.Bonsall@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>If I export an AW2 file in Illustrator 3 format (with "Simulate CMYK 
>>>inks" ticked), when I load that file into Illustrator CS2 I get a
>>>warning: "The document does not have an embedded CMYK profile". Is 
>>>this expected behaviour?
>> I am very surprised that Illustrator CS2 still imports the file at 
>> all. Yes, of course, the file does not have a CMYK profile, that kind

>> of thing was not around in an EPS format designed in 1990.
> Illustrator CS2 seems to handle the AI3 fles I throw at it quite 
> happily. I wondered AI3 might be too early for CMYK, tho' that 
> particular colour model was around in 1992 when AW1 was launched.

Of course, CMYK was around and you do get CMYK colours in exported
Illustrator 3 EPS files. What Illustrator complains about is simply that
there is no CMYK *profile*, which is not at all surprising because there
is no such in ArtWorks anyway.

>> I presume you know that Illustrator CS2 can import PDF? I cannot 
>> imagine any reason why one would use the 15 year old extremely 
>> limited Illustrator 3 export that does not even support the most 
>> basic ArtWorks features when you can use state-of-the-art PDF export 
>> that supports even very advanced ArtWorks features.
> Yes, I was aware that CS2 can import PDF ... but AFAICS you can't edit

> an imported (PDF) drawing, which makes the CS2 PDF import facility of 
> limited use to me.

I am not aware of any such limitation. Surely, PDF import into
Illustrator CS2 would be completely pointless if you could not *edit*
the result? Have you tried it? I have seen screenshots of imported AW
files in Illustrator and it looked perfectly editable.

> Any chance of an improved Illustrator exporter for AW2?

As far as I can see PDF export suits perfectly.

Martin Wuerthner           MW Software          lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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