Agh, never mind, just me being stupid. In a new document, transparency is switched off until an object is explicitly given transparency. It seems copying and pasting transparent objects doesn't turn transparency on... -- Phil. | Kitsune: Acorn RiscPC SA202 64M+6G ViewFinder philpem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Cheetah: Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxeV2 512M+100G http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Tiger: Toshiba SatPro4600 Celeron700 256M+40G