[AR] Re: Say it ain't so Elon...

  • From: William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 22:25:25 +0000

Clapper answered accurately.

Colin Powell was lied to by the WH.

Bill

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:02 PM Ed LeBouthillier <codemonky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

As a manager, I long ago understood that this sort of conversation
reveals a lot about the
character of the—in this case—poster and little to nothing about the
facts.

Ooh...a "real" manager? That must make you authoritative on this issue of
lying.

The US Government and it’s intelligence agencies in particular try to
avoid false statements
(WH excepted);I have seen people “lie” to the extent that if pushed into
a corner by a direct
question they will say they don’t know rather than reveal classified
information—I have so done myself.

Oh, so when James Clapper answered the question 'whether the NSA collected
"any type of data at all on
millions or hundreds of millions of Americans” — to which Clapper said
"No, sir ... not wittingly.”'
[
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27/darrell-issa-james-clapper-lied-to-congress-about-nsa-and-should-be-fired/?utm_term=.5fdc3e959a34
]
that wasn't an intelligence agency lying to congress or the American
public?

Was that an individual lying to the people or was that a TLA lying to the
people, or was that the government lying to the people?
When Colin Powell talked about yellow cake [
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-schwarz/colin-powell-wmd-iraq-war_b_2624620.html
] was that an individual lying, the State Department lying, or the
government lying?

Just because there isn't a policy to lie (or at least a written policy),
doesn't mean it doesn't happen.



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