[AR] Re: Nuclear Hydrogen Thruster

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:04:09 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Craig Fink wrote:

If you could elaborate a bit about why solid Duterium was a problem with
Enzmann's starship? 

The original design had the starship proper pushing a huge ball of deuterium ice, that being the fuel. Structurally that just doesn't work, given the low strength of solid hydrogen. Later revisions reluctantly accepted the need to enclose the fuel in a tank.

      (Hydrogen and helium are sometimes called the "quantum gases"...
      because quantum-mechanical issues are quite significant to their
      properties, so they don't behave like lighter versions of more
      mundane gases.

"Quantum Gases" and quantum-mechanical issues? Could you be more specific
about what your talking about?

The properties of many gases look like scaled versions of each other -- apply the right scaling factor and the graphs look nearly identical. But hydrogen and helium (and sometimes neon) are oddballs that don't follow the standard pattern. Helium is the most spectacular example, e.g. at 1_atm it has no freezing point -- it's still liquid even at just a hair above absolute zero.

The heavier gases have enough nucleons in the nucleus, and enough electrons orbiting it, that their quantum properties tend to sort of average out into a more classical blur. Not so with hydrogen and helium, where quantum effects remain quite visible. For example, the spins of the two protons in H2 can be in the same direction ("ortho" hydrogen) or opposite directions ("para" hydrogen), and the two forms have significantly different properties -- vapor pressure, density, triple point, specific heat, thermal conductivity, etc. are all noticeably different. Room-temperature hydrogen at equilibrium ("normal" hydrogen) is 75% ortho, and if you liquify it you get liquid 75%-ortho, which then proceeds to boil away because at LH2 temperatures the equilibrium composition is nearly 100% para, and the ortho->para transition releases quite a bit of heat. (The fix is to have your liquifier incorporate a catalyst that speeds up the transition, and take out the released energy as part of liquifying.)

Henry

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