Whew! long subject title, it explains it all. I want to use ICCLINK to create a link from an RGB space (typically, AdobeRGB) to an offset printer profile. I'd naturally want to use -G for best accuracy and detail, but I do have some fears about the quality of the black generation done by Argyll. The offset profile is generated by Monaco, which is reputedly one of the best black generations (at least better than ProfileMaker). It'd be a shame to lose it. So I was thinking... if I do the link using -g, and then pass a large set of RGB equal-step values (ideally corresponding to the gridpoints of the input side of the link) through it, and pass the resulting CMYK values through the original offset profile in reverse (abscol), end up with a set of Lab values. Which are not going to match exactly the ones obtained by RGB->Lab on the same set of points and the same RGB (input) profile ; so then I use REFINE on those two sets of Lab values, and do the ICCLINK -g again but this time with -p (and the results from REFINE)... and so on... After some iterations I might end up with results similar to -G, but having the black generation of the original CMYK profile, right? Is there a better/shorter way? Hey, furthermore, if I do all the conversions via another (target) CMM such as for example the beta Adobe CMM, then refine will also compensate for CMM differences and I'd end up with a link optimized for that target CMM...! ? best regards, -- Roberto Michelena Infinitek Lima, Peru