[argyllcms] Re: sample pack paper
- From: Tomasz Danus <t.danus@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:57:35 +0000
Hi Alan,
I am using very similar photo to evaluate, so that's step is same as yours,
but I really cannot use manufacturer's profile since I am not using Epson
inks and Lyson inks are visibly different.
And you probably right I don't remember the need of preconditioning profile
with epson inks - but one more time different inks and it works better that
way.
How do you add 51 b&w step scale to your total number of patches? What kind
of spectro do you use?
I would fiddle with QTR at some point but for that I would have to go back
to Epson inks. I know that there is a freeware tool that comes with that
rip that allows you to make your own profiles using only b&w patches - but
I haven't seen really simple instruction of how to use it;]
I agree with you that it is much better to use limited number of papers to
know them better but till now I never printed on anything based on baryta
so I ordered 4 different baryta papers (ilford, canson and 2 Hahnemuhle) to
check if I can add one to limited collection of papers I use.
Adam,
Printer works as it should - doesn't takes rolls but one can always cut
paper if you need full17in or panorama longer than A2.
no clogging - worked well with epson inks works fine with lyson inks. I am
very happy with it and if I ever change it, it will be only if this one
dies or I will go for 24in
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On 30 January 2013 14:46, adam k <aak1946@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm thinking to buy 3880. Can you tell your experience with it?
> Thank you!
>
> A Kielcz
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Alan Goldhammer <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Tomasz,
>
>
>
> I also have an Epson 3880 printer but only use Epson inks. In evaluating
> new papers, I try to keep things simple and always use this standard print
> for evaluation:
> http://outbackprint.outbackphoto.com/printinginsights/pi049/essay.html
> It has everything one needs including a black patch to measure density. I
> have found that an 1841 patch set that includes a 51 step B/W scale works
> extremely well for me and results in excellent profiles with quite low SEs
> on patch reading (almost all my B/W printing is done using the Epson ABW
> print driver which gives a measurably better black density and I use Roy
> Harrington's QTR to profile papers for this use). Through my testing, I
> have not seen the need to use a preconditioning profile approach. Of
> course this takes four letter size pages to print out and if you are only
> getting five sheets, it's difficult to do much testing. For this reason I
> usually rely on the manufacturer's profile to do the initial test to see if
> I really like the paper. This is fine for the first pass since I only look
> at surface texture and some of the physical attributes of the paper. If I
> am satisfied that this is a paper I will do a lot of printing on and
> customers would like I will then go the full route of preparing my own
> profile. I have to say that I really have not found that any new papers
> are better than the ones that I have been using over the last several
> years, it's far better to keep things relatively simple in terms of paper
> selection as one can go crazy with all of the options out there.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> *From:* argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tomasz Danus
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:24 AM
> *To:* argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [argyllcms] sample pack paper
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am seeking advice. I am waiting for a samples of 4 papers - 5 x A4
> sheets each.
>
> My plan is to make simple profile and 3 prints of photos very well known
> to me - to evaluate.
>
>
>
> What would be a better approach?
>
>
>
>
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