[argyllcms] Re: monitor U2410 calibration

  • From: Roger Breton Vaio <graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:39:27 -0400

X-Rite monitor profiling application? Seems recent generation judging by the 
presence of the chad tag.

You calibrate to D65? You’re on Windows? Seems to have the right element.

 

Do you mind sending the profile along? In ICC format? I think the list will 
allow it.

 

Does the profile create “good” colors to your eyes? Or do they look bad? Other 
than trying to load the profile here, I can’t really say how “good” or “bad” 
the colors created by the profile are because I don’t have your monitor in 
front of me.

 

Best / Roger

 

 

 

 

From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of adam k
Sent: August-23-10 5:19 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: monitor U2410 calibration

 

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Roger Breton Vaio <graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On the Mac, it’s built-in, so to speak, in the ColorSync app. On Windows, you 
need an external application, like ICC Profile Inspector, available at 
www.color.org. On WinXP, there used to be a special add-in Control Panel for 
exploring installed ICC profiles. On Win?, I don’t know. On Unix, I think I’ll 
leave that to others…

 

Best / Roger

 

From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of adam k
Sent: August-23-10 12:56 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: monitor U2410 calibration

 

Is there a free software that can show white point, black point, gamma, etc 
from any monitor profile (ICM)?

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:32 AM, János, Tóth F. <janos666@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No exactly. See examples:

"Smooth" (U2410 Standard mode with 255-255-255): 
http://img12.tar.hu/janos666/img/82927235.png

"Immediate" (l220x with 255-255-255): 
http://img12.tar.hu/janos666/img/82927237.png ; 

"Crossing" (U2410 sRGB mode with 255-255-255): 
http://img12.tar.hu/janos666/img/82927236.png

(Ignore the starting sections on these examples!)

 

The Standard mode may worth to be optimized with OSD Gains because the lines 
don't cross each others. These curves will be nearly coherent after RGB Gain 
setup.

The l220x is questionable. I didn't waste my time to test it.

RGB Gain controls are useless in sRGB mode because the curves cross each 
others. So, these curves won't be coherent after you set the white point with 
the Gains. (But the maximum achievable contrast ratio will be lower.)




-- 
 Adam Kielcz




-- 
 Adam Kielcz

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