[argyllcms] Re: Very poor results with 1000+ patch target.

  • From: "Alan Goldhammer" <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:06:32 -0400

I’m on a PC and have to use the Adobe CPU to print out profiles since this 
option has been dropped since Photshop CS5 came out.  I suspect that your 
problems relate to the MacOS print utility as you did get reasonable results 
with the ColorMunki printed charts.  The CM software uses its own printing 
process for the targets.  The fact that you had such high Delta Es leads me to 
think that it was the ColorSync software.  I’ve done lots of profiles over the 
last several years using the Adobe CPU and have never had the type of problems 
you have shown.  As others have already noted, keep the command line arguments 
to a minimum unless there is a very good reason to change them.

 

Regarding papers I echo what others have already noted.  I routinely use Museo 
Portfolio Rag and Hahnemuhle William Turner for textured paper.  Depending on 
how concerned you are about print longevity you may want to visit: 
http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/index.html where there is lots of test 
results with various papers and ink sets regarding fade resistance.

 

Do let us know if it was the MacOS printing of the target that was the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Michael Gallagher
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:01 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Very poor results with 1000+ patch target.

 

Hmm... here's something I just noticed. In ColorSync, when I select "Print as 
color target", the colors in the little preview window end up changing 
drastically. Is this normal? I saved the preview as a PDF on the bottom of the 
Print window to show you guys. Here they are:

 

Original Argyll generated TIF target: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfp78d7oytepynh/1050_Arches%20Original.tif?dl=0

 

ColorSync Target saved as PDF: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6pvvsgniw9misz/Arches%20ColorSync%20Target.pdf?dl=0

 

I'm going to try using Adobe's Color Print Utility to see if the same thing 
happens during the print.

 

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Ben Goren <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

On Oct 4, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Michael Gallagher <gallaghermikey@xxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:gallaghermikey@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:

> Forgot to ask again: After I make this new target, is there any way to 
> generate targets/patches from a JPEG to optimize the profile?

That sort of thing is much more useful for input (camera or scanner) profiles. 
In your case, what you'll want to do is use the "basic" profile you're about to 
create to "pre-condition" the patch generation algorithm in targen; see the 
"-c" option.

b&

 

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