Hi ! Perhaps this is mention before. Targen V111 possible bug, if a optional profile uses, -c xxxxx.icm, see below, if it sets to run for 20 patches, it works, stop here if 500, so the limit here is somthing between. Vista, 3G Ram, 3Gh dual core. -- .........\targen -v -d4 -c s_10.icm -f500 tg_A4_Lid_500 CMYK test chart Full spread patches = 500 Ink limit = 311.3% (underlying 311.3%) Adaptation weights: Device = 0.350, Perceptual = 0.650, Curvature = 1.000 Perceptual cache resolution = 7 Acceleration grid res = 5 There are 1 unique fixed points to add (4 non-unique) There are 496 far spread points to add Added 497/497 After seeding points: MinPoint = 13.839, Min = 4.087, Avg. = 19.452, Max = 24.38 4, 2.0 secs Re-seeding It 1: Maxmv = 0.156086, MinPoint = 12.059, Min = 4.087, Avg. = 19.684, Max = 26. 756, 2.9 secs. Re-seeding It 2: Maxmv = 0.140941, MinPoint = 7.614, Min = 4.087, Avg. = 19.741, Max = 26.4 30, 2.6 secs. Re-seeding targen: Error - Failed to re-seed the veronoi - too many node instertion failure s ? --------------------------------- And some smaller thing: Printcal stops if it use the description, -D \printcal -v -i %fil_cal_ut_cal% ...ok Spotread stops after it has shown the diagram -p , ok whitout that option, I think printcal has equal problem. regards Magnus