Hello Graeme, Here are the commands I'm using for the Canson Platine profile: targen -v -d2 -G -e8 -B8 -c " HP_Z3100_Canson Platine 310_Canson Profile.icc" -f866 HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine (note: the reference profile is supplied by Canson) printtarg -v -ii1 -a1.0 -T300 -M6 -pA4 HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine chartread HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine illumread -S -c1 -H "HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine".sp colprof -v -A"HP" -M"Z3100" -D"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine" -qh -S"Eizo_CG277_Native_6500K_80cd".icc -cmd -dpe -O"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.icc" HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine colprof -v -A"HP" -M"Z3100" -i"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.sp" -f"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.sp" -D"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof" -qh -S"Eizo_CG277_Native_6500K_80cd".icc -cmd -dpe -O"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof.icc" HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine rem colprof -v -A"HP" -M"Z3100" -i"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.sp" -D"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof_Not_FWA_Compensated" -qh -S"Eizo_CG277_Native_6500K_80cd".icc -cmd -dpe -O"HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof_Not_FWA_Compensated.icc" HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine The monitor is hardware calibrated and profiled using the Eizo ColorNavigator with the i1Pro2: Eizo_CG277_Native_6500K_80cd.icc The HPZ3100 printer is calibrated using its built-in spectrometer. The Z3100 is a 12-ink printer, so I guess using the built-in calibration is a better option rather than trying to calibrate it with the i1Pro2. Obviously, the printer is profiled using Argyll :). I check the generated profiles using iccgamut and viewgam (and also using GamutVision as this shows extra things like Black & White density response). I use Lightroom to print and Photoshop CS6 to soft-proof. Both use the Adobe ACE CMM engine. My document's profile is Adobe RGB. The monitor profile is Eizo_CG277_Native_6500K_80cd.icc Photoshop's working space is Adobe RGB. I print the document from Lightroom using Relative Colorimetric with the HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.icc profile (produced by colprof without -i & -f). I softproof in Photoshop. I set the soft-proof "Device to Simulate" to either HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof or to HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof_Not_FWA_Compensated (makes no difference as per my previous post). I set the soft-proof "Rendering Intent" to Relative Colorimetric, "Black Point Compensation" on, "Simulate Paper Color" on. BTW, I don't know what Photoshop CS6 (or Lightroom) is doing, but all rendering intents simulate the paper color: so using the HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine.sp in all cases does not give the simulated paper white with Solux lighting (it gives the D50 simulated paper white), whereas using HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof or HP_Z3100_Canson_Platine_Solux_Proof_Not_FWA_Compensated does, again in all cases. I've also created D50 and D65 profiles (-iD50 -fD50 and -iD65 -fD65): when soft-proofed with the D50 profile changing from the print to the softproof profile makes no difference, as expected; selecting the D65 profile with simulated paper color ON gives a much bluer color than with simulated paper color OFF, which seems wrong as the monitor was profiled to 6500K and currently has a CCT of 6600K). The only other thing I do is to view the image on the monitor in a darkened room at full screen mode, so no other whites to fool the eyes, and I illuminate the paper using the Solux lamp. The paper and monitor are side by side and the images are the same size. I have a rig that prevents light from the lamp shining on the monitor or other surface, so that just the paper is illuminated). I can't think of anything else to add :). Is this workflow essentially correct, or is there a fatal flaw in it? Many thanks! Robert p.s Once I get this sorted out correctly (with your help, needless to say) I'll write a tutorial on how to do it, including batch files (this would have been VERY helpful to me, although I have to say that doing it the hard way is a great learning exercise, if one has the time). -----Original Message----- From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graeme Gill Sent: 04 June 2014 07:07 To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Soft-proofing in Photoshop with Argyll - correction to my last post! robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I'm trying to set up a good soft-proofing workflow using Argyll and I would > really appreciate a bit of help! > What I'm doing for soft-proofing (and as I'm a novice at colour management > and Argyll, I have no doubt I'm doing things wrong) is as follows: > This seems to work really well and the monitor and print match very closely. > HOWEVER . I have no idea if this works just by luck and so can't be relied > on, or if it's technically correct. Hi, There are a lot of details missing in regard to your soft proofing. For instance, you don't say how you are actually doing it, ie. what profiles form the rendering chain for your soft proof, what intents are used, or what CMM is being used. You are at the mercy of all of those elements, + the way the profiles are set up. > Using the PROFILENAME_NoSP.icc to soft-proof (the > profile used to print) does not give the right paper white or colours (too > blue) . perhaps because the SoLux lamp is well below D50? This depends on the rendering intent - anything but absolute should give the same white for both profiles, since the white will be the paper color. Graeme Gill.