[argyllcms] Re: Saturation

  • From: Dimitrije Zivkovic <migraf.keramika@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:21:26 +0200

No

You can chose tables whatever you want.

With COLPROF you have -Z and -T options with  a, p, r and s.

Also with COLLINK you can use the same parameters.

I use always perceptual, because we don't use magenta as one of colors, so i 
have to use perceptual conversion. 
Otherwise I got strange conversion of magenta and violet colors.


The question is:

What should I use when make color profile, and what when make color link 
profile?


Dimitrije Zivkovic

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Nikolay Pokhilchenko wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, Collink uses only relative tables (A2B with -G and B2A 
> with -g parameter). For using with collink You may compute the profile 
> without any perceptual or saturation tables. So, with colprof You needn't use 
> -S or -s parameters.
> You can define the source gamut only at collink stage.
> 
> Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:28:55 +0200 от Dimitrije Zivkovic 
> <migraf.keramika@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Thanks Nikolay
> 
> I tested your suggestion and got much better results.
> 
> I try collink with -ip -op, than -is -op, and the second looks much better to 
> me.
> 
> So which procedure should be:
> 
> colprof … -SUSWebcoatedSWOP or -SsRGB… ?
> 
> Then collink
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dimitrije Zivkovic
> 
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Nikolay Pokhilchenko wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dimitrije.
>> As soon as You are printing on a ceramic with very small color gamut of the 
>> printing process, You shouldn't use general Fogra39>Ceramic perceptual gamut 
>> mapping. If the destination space (print on ceramic) have lower gamut than 
>> source colorspace, the gamut compression will be take a place. The 
>> desaturation will be as higher as the difference between gamuts is.
>> For the best result as source gamut for profiling You should use the gamut 
>> of each certain image. You have to building new profile (device link) for 
>> each image (or each group of very similar images).
>> 
>> 1. tiffgamut
>> 2. collink
>> 3. cctiff
>> 
>> 
>> Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:57:45 +0200 от Dimitrije Zivkovic 
>> <migraf.keramika@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Hi everybody
>> 
>> It's about printer profile with very desaturated colors, and the point is to 
>> get best possible results in conversion to get most saturated colors.
>> I have to work only in perceptual mode because gradation in any other way is 
>> rough.
>> 
>> For source profile I always use standard USWebCoated or Fogra39 profiles.
>> 
>> Which way is better "-qm -bu" or "-qh -b"? Or I have to use some other 
>> option in colprof.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Dimitrije Zivkovic
>> 
> 
> 

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