Hi Klaus, I did as you said. I picked up a paper with a b value =8, i.e bluish in terms of Fine Art. The profile I obtained is in fact slightly warmer than the "standard" one. In practice on a series of gray patches it produces b values that are 1 point higher. The black and the white point are protected and not messed with, so that is good news. I would like to have a stronger effect and I believe I have to follow the device link strategy. As I said I am learning...where can I start if I want to understand how to manipulate device link profiles? A good suggestion is welcome... Michele >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Data: 11/01/2011 15.45 >A: <argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Ogg: [argyllcms] Re: R: Re: Neutralize Grey Axis > >realman10@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> colprof -iD50_1.0.sp -o1931_2 -f -qh -ds:n -dw:.345669:.358496 -da:100 -db: 18 - >> dl:170 -df:1.5 -df:.345669:.358496 -S"sRGB.icm" >> >> is that something I can use as such or does it need to be adapted to the >> actual paper white and L that he is using? > >D50 is most likely the illuminant you are looking for, but you can vary >the effect of the FWA compensation by using D50-like illuminants with >more or less UV (D50_0.0.sp ... D50_3.0.sp files in Argyll's "ref" >subdirectory) > >You can simplify the command if you use predefined viewing condition (-d >pp, pe or pc) and just overwrite the adapted white point chromaticity >(e.g. "-dpp -dw:.345669:.358496") x=0.345669, y=0.358496 are the xy >values for D50 (respectively a* = b* = 0 under D50) so this is most >likely what you are after. You can calculate chromaticity coordinates >for other adaptation colors using Bruce Lindbloom's Color Calculator ><http://www.brucelindbloom.com/index.html?ColorCalculator.html> if required. > >But as Gerhard mentioned and Graeme confirmed, changing the CIECAM >adaptation chromaticity does not affect the gray balance of the >perceptual intent essentially, so it might be better to replace it by >-taa (Absolute appearance intent) as Graeme suggested. There's no gamut >mapping in the absolute appearance intent however. If i got it right, >the only way to get both gamut mapping and adaptation to a white point >other than paper color in Argyll seems to be using device link profiles. > >Klaus > > >