Thanks Alan,
great video for softproofing that I'll certainly follow to a certain
extent, meaning I'll explore the Lightroom way of doing this (already
converted). I usually use Photoshop for printing, but LR add the presets
idea which will very likely save me time and money.
I have no idea who these guys are, and base on this video I wouldn't
blindly trust what they say just like that. Yes they mention calibrating
there monitor (hardware), mine is hardware calibrated as well (BENQ) but
no mention of printer profiles beside using them. I will look if LR
allows printing at 16 bits depth. If it is then I'm going to make an old
new friend by printing via LR from now own.
I noticed in the video, they showed that depending on the paper the
softproof look changes, which is perfectly normal, that's the idea of
soft-proofing. What I don't like, in my case, is when the softproof
shows you something and the print is relatively darker. I don't think
that's the idea behind soft-proofing.
Thanks for your time,
Yves
On 3/23/2022 12:42 PM, Alan Goldhammer (agoldhammer) wrote:
I wish that I could be of more help to you on this matter. Here is a recent
piece over on photopxl.com on soft proofing:
https://photopxl.com/soft-proofing-the-secret-to-making-great-prints/ that ;
might be useful. Jeff Schewe who is a master of digital printing goes over
things but more importantly for you one of the images is a group of bright
flowers encased in ice. You can see how he arrives at a final print that
matches the soft proof. His print is not dark. You can scroll down and see
all the settings that he uses.
Alan
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Subject: [argyllcms] Puzzled
I followed the recommendations to make a printer profile using only Argyllcms
this time.
The reason I started over, is that the resulting prints and softproofing where
way to dark to my taste.
But after creating a pre-conditioning profile and the final profile as
recommend, I have the exact same problem.
So I printed a ColorChecker and measure it, gave all this to refine and after
applying the resulting profile in Photoshop using the Color Table adjustment
layer, seems much better on the softproof side. I'm tired of wasting paper so I
didn't try yet to print it.
Why the base profile needs a refining step in the first place?
Some have suggested I live with it basically. If I would have to pay for such a
print, I would reject it for one and the idea of tweaking the image by guessing
so it print more or less correctly is not something I find acceptable,
especially in the long term.
I'd like to ear what you guys say about this.
Just in case, my monitor is pretty dam well calibrated and characterize, and I
have fairly good viewing condition, thought it's not a professional setup.
Thanks,
Yves
