I have a Barbieri. It does transparencies.
On Dec 2, 2017 17:35, "Roger Breton" <graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How many patches do you read, Alex? And how big do you make the patch?
Could you write what instruction you type to generate the target?
/ Roger
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From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@
freelists.org] On Behalf Of Alexey Gribunin
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:07 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Profiling backlit film (with Monitor?)
Hello Roger!
1. Chartread. I'm measuring with Chartread –t. I prefer it because the
i1Pro calibration is performing relative to lightbox+clear backlit. So the
testform's paper patch (CMYK 0000) is L=100, a=0, b=0, i.e. perfect white
and it's not necessary to recalculate it afterwords.
2. Strip mode vs Patch mode. Theoretically Strip mode is possible but in
my practice it's very unstable because the light intensity of lightbox is
not enough. Maybe it's possible to do with higher intensity lightbox, but
it seems to me that then another problem will arise - i1Pro drift due to
overheating.
So I'm using patch mode. It's slow but it's stable.
3. lightbox. Theoretically an incandescent light source with 80A (or
similar) blue filter would be very good choice. I tried to construct
lightspot for patch measurements with incandescent light source and 80A
filter. CRI of such construction is very good, the spectra is similar to
real D50. But I found that overheating also is an issue. The spectra of
such construction still has quite high amount of IR. So it's better to add
an IR filter also. But I didn't find it and left this idea for simpler
light sources...
In my practice iPad (i.e. LED source) showed himself better than
fluorescent light source. It's more stable and it's also much more usable
because I always have it in my bag :))))
So I would suggest you to try LED first to develop the complete workflow
and then to think about another types of lightboxes.
Best regards,
Alexey Gribunin, UNIT Color Technologies, Moscow, Russia.
On 01/12/2017 19:32, Roger Breton wrote:
All of a sudden, I need to come up with an ICC profile for backlit
media – small world!
Many questions…
First, suppose I use Chartread –e. Can I read in strips with the i1pro?
Or do I need to read in Patch mode?
Second, choice of lightbox. Is it “better” to measure with the media
sitting on a fluorescent light source? Or is it better to measure with
an incandescent light source? Why not LED light source?
I was thinking of using this kind of lightbox:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-JUST-Normlicht-Color-Smart-Light-5000-Tran
sparency-Flat-Viewer-15-x-10/361307134398?hash=item541f9559be:g:LtkAAO
SwNSxVZhQt
I remember reading that the issue of light source “color temperature”
was not important. How is that?
Best / Roger
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[mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Kamil Tresnak
*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:22 PM
*To:* argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [argyllcms] Re: Profiling backlit film with Monitor
Thanks for sharing, Alexey!
Regards,
Kamil Tresnak
In the past I used LCD monitor without matrix (it was damaged, but
lamp itself was good, so I just remove the matrix and used it as a
light table). But the uniformity and stability is not very good, so
it was necessary to calibrate i1Pro every few patches.
Now I'm using iPad (!) and found it much more stable
(auto-brightness=off).
But calibration every 10-15 patches is also highly desirable. It's
necessary to get really repeatable and reliable values.
I'm calibrating device during measurements in two different ways:
1. I'm making ArgyllCMS native calibration every 75 patches.
2. I'm measuring white patch every 15 patches and making linear
spectral correction afterwords in EXCEL.
Best regards,
Alexey Gribunin, UNIT Color Technologies, Moscow, Russia.
