Gerhard Fuernkranz wrote: > For camera profiling, it is IMO not so clear that the color and luminance of > the white > patch on a test chart has any specific meaning for the scenes which are > eventually > captured with the camera (particularly if the white patch does not even > happen to be > spectrally flat, as it is the case for some targets). Hi, there's nothing else there to set a relative colorimetric white point though, and for situations where it is not relevant, then I would imagine some other workflow using absolute colorimetric would be the right approach (ie. a manual or auto white point/white balance selection.) > I'd possibly be more liberal and > give the users the choice to select the profile's media white point location > freely, > depending on their particular shooting scenario and/or workflow, in order > that applying > the profile with relative colorimetric intent will eventually clip at the > desired white > point. I'll have to think about that. > [ This still does not solve any extrapolation issues of course, unless the > chosen WP is > inside the gamut of the target. Btw, which model do you use internally for > extrapolation? > -am, -ag, -aG ? ] It's a special internal matrix model which I tried to tune up to be reasonable with the couple of examples I have. It uses gamma per channel curves with one extra shaper order + matrix, with some weighting towards the neutral patch samples, the idea being to reduce the influence of chromatic samples on the neutral axis response. Graeme.