Semund Svelle wrote: > I want to make patches with no randomize. It seams to be a bug in V. 1.6.3 > mixing the > patches with the printtarg -r (don't randomize patch location) argument when > /white/ > patches is present. It works fine when «targen -e0». > > Before 1.6.3 following worked fine and made made perfect lines with patches: > targen -v -d5 -s43 -e21 -g43 -f0 -p3 NNN > printtarg -v -ii1 -r -b -e -pA4 NNN Hi, this has been answered previously, in September last year. If you test versions of printtarg back to 1.5 and possibly prior, you will notice that the layout is unchanged, ie. it has nothing to do with the printtarg -r flag, it is simply showing the patches in the order they are in the .ti1 file, ie. the layout is not being randomized. V1.6 added the -B option for black patches, with a default value of 4 for grey or RGB spaces, as well as the default 4 white patches. These are deliberately distributed throughout the samples, and there is also de-duplication of other patches of the same color generated by the other flags. If you remove the default white and black patches (ie. targen -v -d5 -s43 -e0 -g43 -B0 -f0 -p3 NNN) then you will perhaps see something a bit more like what you expect. You can of course sort the patches manually by editing the .ti1 file. Graeme Gill.