Hi Graeme, I've tried the workflow you've suggested (below) to check my print accuracy and my results are well off. Here are the first few (worst values): No of test patches = 100 File 0 Chose patch 1 as white, xyz 0.964203 1.000000 0.824905 File 1 Chose patch 1 as white, xyz 0.837679 0.872949 0.741557 L*a*b* white reference = XYZ 0.964200 1.000000 0.824900 21: 18.038560 25.951478 22.489887 <=> 39.803954 11.831945 -35.079664 de 37.269236 28: 34.185591 -67.085881 -6.455341 <=> 62.944388 -90.026713 44.587042 de 34.884374 41: 40.524868 -33.803806 -52.438105 <=> 65.223756 -60.678084 -21.994298 de 29.777970 26: 52.908776 -78.403017 -17.947748 <=> 71.957265 -79.305174 41.137194 de 29.656735 12: 57.830887 -42.597937 -57.500006 <=> 76.080635 -62.957608 -8.243975 de 27.776304 So I'm clearly doing something drastically wrong! I would really appreciate it if you would have a look at these commands to see where the mistakes: targen -v -d2 -G -f100 iPFTest copy iPFTest.ti1 iPFRef.ti1 fakeread -v -Ir iPF6400_HP_ID_Satin.icm iPFRef printtarg -v -r -ii1 -a1.0 -T300 -M6 -pA4 iPFTest cctiff -v -e AdobeRGB1998.icc iPFTest.tif iPFTestO.tif move /Y iPFTestO.tif iPFTest.tif Pause Print iPFRef.tif using iPF6400_HP_ID_Satin.icm profile and Rel. Col. chartread iPFTest Pause The test results will be in iPFValidate.txt colverify -v2 -N -k -s -w -x iPFRef.ti3 iPFTest.ti3 >iPFValidate.txt I'm printing iPFTest.tif using Photoshop, RelCol to iPF6400_HP_ID_Satin.icm. Many thanks! Robert -----Original Message----- From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graeme Gill Sent: 15 October 2014 14:26 To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Print Validation robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I've tried your first method and it's just fine. I'll try the variation: is > that effectively equivalent to using profcheck? Yes, it's going to be similar. > I don't really understand your last suggestion. In a proofing type workflow, the aim is to get a printer (or other display device) to emulate some particular target colorspace. You do this by transforming the colors you want to reproduce through a source profile (which defines the target you are trying to emulate) and the device profile. If you want to check how accurate your proofing system is, then the type of thing you might do is generate a test set in the target device colorspace, and run it through the source profile with fakeread to create the reference .ti3 file. Then you run the same colors through your proofing workflow (e.g. create a .tif using printtarg, then apply the source to printer device link to the .tiff using cctiff and print it, or run the .tif through whatever ICC based workflow you have setup for proofing), measure the result and compare the .ti3 to the reference using colverify. Graeme Gill.