Ben Goren wrote: > Anything new and exciting to report, or is it still looking like a marginal > upgrade with not a > whole lot to benefit those of us who own the original and already use Argyll? I've been looking into the temperature stability of the i1pro2/Rev E, and have made a couple of interesting observations. One is that the Rev E (and also the ColorMunki) seems to have some sort of hardware/firmware temperature compensation to counteract the increase in dark noise with temperature. The good news is that this benefits the Rev E in legacy mode, the bad news is that (at least on my particular instrument) it's not perfect, and the black reading in fact drops with increasing temperature (ie. it seems to be over compensating). The result seems to be better than the behaviour of the previous revision i1pro's though. An aspect of the ColorMunki and i1pro Rev E spectrometers that I've noticed but not investigated or made use of up to now is that they have extra measurement cells that are (presumably) optically shielded. This makes them a candidate for tracking how the black noise is changing with temperature for each reading, and automatically adjusting the black calibration to compensate for the sensors temperature change since calibration. Some experimenting indicates this can be quite effective: The readings are the calibration black Y value in cd/m^2 in adaptive mode (ie. integration time of about 4 seconds). Temperature Rev A Rev E Rev E Rev E Degrees C. No Comp. With Comp. Manufact. Driver 17 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 30 3.27 -1.01 0.00 0.897 Some experimentation indicates to me that the Manufacturers driver makes use of the shielded cells to compensate for change with temperature, but uses a simpler compensation model that doesn't perfectly track how the sensor actually behaves (at least for my particular unit). It also seems that the Manufacturers driver uses the same sort of scheme for the ColorMunki, where (for my particular unit) it works somewhat better, because the sensor seems to behave more straightforwardly, but a better behaviour model still seems able to improve performance. Temperature Munki Munki Munki Degrees C. No Comp. With Comp. Manufact. Driver 18 0.00 0.00 0.00 30 -0.65 0.015 0.146 So in conclusion, the i1pro2/Rev E does hold the potential for much improved dark calibration stability, and this should make it much more usable in measuring displays. The ArgyllCMS driver for the ColorMunki also holds potential for improvement in this area too. Graeme Gill.