Graeme, when viewing newsprint the viewer will adapt to paper white. But when densely printed crop-framed photos are viewed, the adaptation will be to an external white point; what it is I don't really know, but I would say that flat white reflecting the ambient light makes as much sense as some yellowish paper white. As for invoking the ICC, I don't see much color science there, rather an enshrining of existing print practice, and modern practitioners may take a different tack - I personally hate "follow the party line" approaches in software, and open source has usually made a point of catering to minorities. Edmund > > Sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me. Typically the paper white is > the (visual) neutral point - at least ICC and all perceptual based intents > take this as a fundamental principle, and it is backed up with a whole lot > of color appearance science, and practical experience. > > Graeme Gill. > >