I don't see how to do this in Photoshop or Lightroom Alan. If I select Application Manages Color, then I have to select a rendering intent ... in which case the application will presumably re-render the already rendered image, which clearly I don't want. How do you send it to the printer from Lightroom or Photoshop CS6 onwards without this happening? As for the ACPU ... yes, it's OK for something like printing targets, but it's extremely basic. If I have to go down that route I would prefer to use Photoshop CS5 or CS6. I really hope Adobe relaxes its color-management stranglehold and lets us make decisions for ourselves instead of putting us into a straight-jacket! Robert -----Original Message----- From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer Sent: 18 July 2014 00:31 To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Do nothing Profile I don't understand this. If you have converted to a profile for your particular paper you just send it to the printer and make sure that the printer driver is set so that it doesn't interfere with your profiled image. You can do that part in LR or Photoshop right now. The ACPU is easy to use and I print out all my Argyll profile targets using it. Alan -----Original Message----- But I really would like to be able to do this from Lightroom/Photoshop as it's also for situations where I've converted to the destination and so don't want any color management.