I like to use eciRGBv2. I'm a D50 "guy", what can I say ;-) / Roger -----Original Message----- From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brad Funkhouser Sent: 7 juillet 2014 14:40 To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Custom Illuminant When AdobeRGB is a little too small, and ProPhotoRGB is just too big, try Bruce Lindbloom's BetaRGB, it might be just right. - Brad > On Jul 7, 2014, at 9:18 AM, <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > << How does the gamut mapping know that no mapping is required ? If > you tell it the source gamut is ProPhoto, then it will think that lots > of gamut mapping is needed, since the ProPhoto gamut is so much larger > than a printer !>> > > Well that has finally clarified that point for me! So with Perceptual > the whole source gamut is squashed down to the destination gamut, even > if all the colors are within the destination gamut. This means that > in a Perceptual mapping from ProPhoto to print, colors will be > compressed resulting in desaturation of the image, particularly of the > more saturated colors nearer the print gamut boundary. > > So the following strategy might make sense for a Relative intent conversion: > - Going from ProPhoto to print, make sure the colors are more or less > within the destination space to avoid too much clipping. > > And the following for Perceptual: > - Do a Relative conversion from ProPhoto to AdobeRGB (making sure the > colors are more or less within the AdobeRGB space before the > conversion to avoid too much clipping). > - Do a Perceptual mapping from AdobeRGB to print. > > I did a comparison of a 1-step ProPhoto [Perceptual to Print > conversion] with a 2-step [ProPhoto to AdobeRGB conversion, followed > by an AdobeRGB Perceptual to print conversion]: > - If the original image colors are all within the AdobeRGB gamut there > is quite a difference if the print gamut is much smaller than > AdobeRGB, but none if it is of similar size. > - If the original image colors are outside the AdobeRGB gamut, the > 2-step approach is significantly better even if the print gamut is > very close to the AdobeRGB gamut. > This is a bit puzzling because I would have expected a difference in > all cases (if the full ProPhoto gamut is squashed down in a Perceptual > conversion). > > What would be nice would be to be able to make the smaller > intermediate working color space using tiffgamut/colprof (from a range > of typical images), but I don't see how that could be done. > > Robert > >