[argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5
- From: "Alan Goldhammer" <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:11:09 -0400
NO, the Adobe Color Print Utility works fine and prints out targets with no
profile. All of my profiles were prepared using it. I did one test with
targets printed out from CS4 which does allow targets to be printed out with
no color management and there was no difference in the result. The only
minor issue is that the patch size for an i1pro is slightly smaller using
the print utility but it doesn't impact the readings at all. Adobe knows
about this minor flaw but appears unwilling to do anything about it.
Alan
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wim Hertog
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:42 AM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5
Guys,
Just something I thought about: in PS CS5 you can't print without profile
anymore. Adobe supplies some kind of application to directly print TIFF
files for printer calibration. Could it be that when using this app windows
is applying the printer profile from the windows CMM?
Would a profile chart printed using a printer profile applied to it later
result in such weird behaviour?
2011/10/20 Alan Goldhammer <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
A couple of comments on this thread. I think calibration is unnecessary for
professional printers (at least in the Epson class) since the quality
control and deviation of colors in the inks is so tight. I've done several
cartridge changes on my Epson 3880 in the 18 months that I've had it and not
noticed any color drift at all when printing out the same images. As was
noted, most if not all professional profiling software solutions don't
implement this feature. I've not tried it to see what the effects are since
my profiles appear fine without it. I shall take a look at it.
I am running a Win7 machine and have not noticed any of the big color shifts
that Wim has seen with his computer and Canon printer. It is possible that
the issue is with the Canon driver in some manner.
Finally, many of us print directly from Lightroom since it is easier and one
can set up presets to avoid any "wrong" settings in the printing pathway.
Since Lightroom does not permit softproofing, the implementation of the
Photoshop curves method using the calibration file would not work unless one
made a round trip to Photoshop. For some papers that are very well behaved
(Ilford Gold Fiber Silk) I find that I don't need to do a lot of
softproofing provided there are not a lot of out of gamut colors.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Phil Cruse
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:32 AM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5
Hi,
If changing brands then you should definitely reprofile!
Changing empty cartridges, re-cal only if necessary, if cal works for you.
Cheers
Phil
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