Thanks Marcus, didn't think of that ;) 2011/10/20 Marcus Andersson <lucaf3rr@xxxxxxxxx> > You can circumvent that limitation by the following method, which > effectively becomes a null transform on the image data. This is the > procedure on a Mac: > > 1. Apply Generic RGB profile to non-managed image > 2. Open print dialogue. > 3. Choose Photoshop manages colors > 4. Choose Generic RGB again as the printer profile > 5. Disable printer color management as usual. > 6. Print > > Marcus > > On 20 okt 2011, at 14:41, Wim Hertog <nertog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Guys, > > Just something I thought about: in PS CS5 you can't print without profile > anymore. Adobe supplies some kind of application to directly print TIFF > files for printer calibration. Could it be that when using this app windows > is applying the printer profile from the windows CMM? > > Would a profile chart printed using a printer profile applied to it later > result in such weird behaviour? > > 2011/10/20 Alan Goldhammer < <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx> > agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> A couple of comments on this thread. I think calibration is unnecessary >> for >> professional printers (at least in the Epson class) since the quality >> control and deviation of colors in the inks is so tight. I've done >> several >> cartridge changes on my Epson 3880 in the 18 months that I've had it and >> not >> noticed any color drift at all when printing out the same images. As was >> noted, most if not all professional profiling software solutions don't >> implement this feature. I've not tried it to see what the effects are >> since >> my profiles appear fine without it. I shall take a look at it. >> >> I am running a Win7 machine and have not noticed any of the big color >> shifts >> that Wim has seen with his computer and Canon printer. It is possible >> that >> the issue is with the Canon driver in some manner. >> >> Finally, many of us print directly from Lightroom since it is easier and >> one >> can set up presets to avoid any "wrong" settings in the printing pathway. >> Since Lightroom does not permit softproofing, the implementation of the >> Photoshop curves method using the calibration file would not work unless >> one >> made a round trip to Photoshop. For some papers that are very well >> behaved >> (Ilford Gold Fiber Silk) I find that I don't need to do a lot of >> softproofing provided there are not a lot of out of gamut colors. >> >> Alan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:<argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Phil Cruse >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:32 AM >> To: <argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5 >> >> Hi, >> >> If changing brands then you should definitely reprofile! >> Changing empty cartridges, re-cal only if necessary, if cal works for you. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil >> >> >> >