[argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5

  • From: Wim Hertog <nertog@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:58:37 +0200

Thanks Marcus, didn't think of that ;)

2011/10/20 Marcus Andersson <lucaf3rr@xxxxxxxxx>

> You can circumvent that limitation by the following method, which
> effectively becomes a null transform on the image data. This is the
> procedure on a Mac:
>
> 1. Apply Generic RGB profile to non-managed image
> 2. Open print dialogue.
> 3. Choose Photoshop manages colors
> 4. Choose Generic RGB again as the printer profile
> 5. Disable printer color management as usual.
> 6. Print
>
> Marcus
>
> On 20 okt 2011, at 14:41, Wim Hertog <nertog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> Just something I thought about: in PS CS5 you can't print without profile
> anymore. Adobe supplies some kind of application to directly print TIFF
> files for printer calibration. Could it be that when using this app windows
> is applying the printer profile from the windows CMM?
>
> Would a profile chart printed using a printer profile applied to it later
> result in such weird behaviour?
>
> 2011/10/20 Alan Goldhammer < <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> A couple of comments on this thread.  I think calibration is unnecessary
>> for
>> professional printers (at least in the Epson class) since the quality
>> control and deviation of colors in the inks is so tight.  I've done
>> several
>> cartridge changes on my Epson 3880 in the 18 months that I've had it and
>> not
>> noticed any color drift at all when printing out the same images.  As was
>> noted, most if not all professional profiling software solutions don't
>> implement this feature.  I've not tried it to see what the effects are
>> since
>> my profiles appear fine without it.  I shall take a look at it.
>>
>> I am running a Win7 machine and have not noticed any of the big color
>> shifts
>> that Wim has seen with his computer and Canon printer.  It is possible
>> that
>> the issue is with the Canon driver in some manner.
>>
>> Finally, many of us print directly from Lightroom since it is easier and
>> one
>> can set up presets to avoid any "wrong" settings in the printing pathway.
>> Since Lightroom does not permit softproofing, the implementation of the
>> Photoshop curves method using the calibration file would not work unless
>> one
>> made a round trip to Photoshop.  For some papers that are very well
>> behaved
>> (Ilford Gold Fiber Silk) I find that I don't need to do a lot of
>> softproofing provided there are not a lot of out of gamut colors.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Phil Cruse
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:32 AM
>> To: <argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Create RGB printer .ICM to use in Photoshop CS5
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If changing brands then you should definitely reprofile!
>> Changing empty cartridges, re-cal only if necessary, if cal works for you.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>

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