On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 12:14 -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > But, as you write, the maintainers have over a decade invested in > byte-pinching and tight central control mechanisms, and are loathe > to change their ways. We don't force anyone to use our system. People who disagree with is are welcome to create their system. You can create yours. So far none of the distro naysayers has managed to create anything that attracted more than a confidential number of users. So our system may not be unperfect but it works which has high pragmatic value. The Apple system only works because of the huge financial flux which is used to hide its problems. Distributions manage to get by with little or no funding. That says a lot about their efficiency. And before you pretend I don't know what I'm writing about, I've worked both inside a proprietary fork-it company and as an integrator for one of the top-four worldwide software behemots. They were all barely managing to keep their private forks of common software libs above the waterline (and only for a small set of approved customer configurations). -- Nicolas Mailhot