Hi, > The results were not acceptable when I use the perceptual intent due to a > very muted or > washed blue color and a slight magenta cast. Blacks are deeper blacks. It's always hard to investigate such issues without all the details of the workflow and being able to examine the resulting print, but at least in the softproof simulations of the profile, I'm not sure I can really reproduce this. While the perceptual profile (as expected) has slightly less saturated blues (see <http://www.argyllcms.com/RGBsurfall_pv.tif> than the colorimetric intent (see <http://www.argyllcms.com/RGBsurfall_rv.tif>, they are not what I'd call washed out, and the neutrals are not obviously tinted. Note though that it depends to some degree what you are looking for. The nature of a print device is that there is a severe trade-off between saturation and lightness in blue. The Perceptual intent (by the tuning I've chosen) is lighter and less saturated than the clipping of the colorimetric intent, and (to my taste) is visually closer to the very intense and light color of the source AdobeRGB blue (Helmholtz-Kohlraush effect). The colorimetric reproduction is certainly more saturated, but is overly dark in my opinion. > If I print using the same profile, and the same paper, but using the relative > colorimetric intent, the blue color is perfect (not washed or muted), but the > blacks > are more dark greys than blacks. Also I loose the shadow detail. That's a consequence of the device having a very non-neutral black point, and it being a colorimetric intent. "Colorimetric" strictly implies point by point absolute minimum color error, and the shortest distance from the target of perfect black to the gamut surface is dark blue/grey. A darker mapping would have a higher saturation error, and a higher total delta E. In contrast, the perceptual mapping makes more effort to map the neutral axis and luminance ranges. You could try a "la" - Luminance axis matched Appearance intent for the perceptual table (-t la)as a compromise between the two. Another option is to use one of the two saturation intents, which should give good blacks and more saturated (and possibly darker) blues. > Thinking that I will improve blacks and shadow details on relative > colorimetric, I have > do charts with more patches: 396 patches with 48 greys and 3 whites, 1188 > patches with > 128 greys and 3 whites and 1980 patches with 256 greys and 3 whites. Since the black is a result of the device behaviour near black and the intent, increasing the number of patches is not likely to change anything. > *colprof -v -qu -iD50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc -cmt -dpp -D"Description > Profile" > -O"NameProfile.icm" Argyllv140_396parxes48Gris3Blanc I'm quite seriously thinking of changing the documentation for the "-q" flag: -q fmsu Speed - Fast, Medium (def), Slow, Ultra Slow to try and dissuade people from "turning it up to 11" without good reason. (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven>). Your device seems reasonably well behaved, and I would think needs no more than -qm, or -qh at the most. Cheers, Graeme Gill.