Magnus, These days, I tend to recommend the Spyder3 over the i1d2. I think the i1d2 is a little overpriced compared to the Spyder3, and I had a few instances where I ended up with "reddish" colors with the i1d2. So the i1d is not my colorimeter of choice. My instrument of choice remains the EyeOnePro... Best / Roger > -----Original Message----- > From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Magnus Berg > Sent: 11 avril 2010 09:25 > To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Am I stupid or is it something else... my color > management sucks. > > Thanks for your answers Roger and Steffen. > > Steffen: I knew it, it was me who was stupid. :-) It's no way around a new > color meter. > > Roger: I just find out that I can buy a Eye-One Display LT for not much more > than a Spider 3. Which one should I chose? > > Magnus > > 2010-04-11 15:16, Steffen skrev: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > The Sypder2 is indeed the problem here. It is not compatible with > > widegamut displays. They added 'support' for this with the spyder3. > > > > Greets, > > Steffen > > > > Am 11.04.2010 14:38, schrieb Magnus Berg: > > > >> Thank you for your answer Roger. > >> > >> I have read the same thing during my search for a solution; that > >> Spyder > >> 2 can differ from one unit to unit. And yes, if no one else here on > >> the list has any better suggestion to a solution I'm willing to buy a > >> new color meter. Spyder 3 it's that expensive. > >> > >> Magnus > >> > >> > >> 2010-04-11 14:17, Roger Breton skrev: > >> > >>> Magnus, > >>> > >>> I have two Spyder2 here and one of them results in profiles with a > >>> terrible green cast. I would not be surprised that the instrument > >>> itself is the source of your problems. > >>> > >>> Roger > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms- > >>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Magnus Berg > >>>> Sent: 11 avril 2010 07:40 > >>>> To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [argyllcms] Am I stupid or is it something else... my > >>>> color management sucks. > >>>> > >>>> Hi, I'm new to the list and got a big problem. > >>>> > >>>> I bought me a used Spyder 2. Realized that my old CTR couldn't > >>>> produce enough light (90 cd/m^2 not 140 cd/m^2 that sRGB require). > >>>> Digged a deep hole in my wallet and bought a quite expensive NEC > >>>> 2690WUXI2. Now my color managed application show a green cast after > >>>> calibration and > >>>> > >>>> > >>> proofing. > >>> > >>> > >>>> It's not fun at all. :-( > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This is how I do the calibration and proofing: > >>>> > >>>> I use dispcalCUI. After that I had use the screen's OSD to set the > >>>> 'White point', 'White level' and 'Black point' i got this nice > >>>> values then I do a > >>>> > >>>> > >>> 'Check > >>> > >>> > >>>> all': > >>>> > >>>> Doing check measurements > >>>> Black = XYZ 2.28 7.37 0.00 > >>>> Grey = XYZ 27.17 28.58 31.02 > >>>> White = XYZ 130.26 137.22 149.83 > >>>> 1% = XYZ 1.38 1.46 1.58 > >>>> > >>>> Target Brightness = 140.00, Current = 137.22, error = -2.0% > >>>> Target 50% Level = 50.07, Current = 28.58, error = -15.4% > >>>> Target Near Black = 1.37, Current = 1.46, error = 0.1% > >>>> Target white = x 0.3128, y 0.3291, Current = x 0.3121, y > >>>> 0.3288, error > >>>> > >>>> > >>> = 0.38 > >>> > >>> > >>>> DE > >>>> Target black = x 0.3128, y 0.3291, Current = x 0.3120, y > >>>> 0.3299, error > >>>> > >>>> > >>> = 1.22 > >>> > >>> > >>>> DE > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Then dispcalGUI send this command to dispcal: > >>>> dispcal -v -d1 -c1 -yl -P0.500317863954,0.485345838218,1.0 -qh > >>>> -t6500 > >>>> -b140 -G2.2 -f0 -k0 -A4 -B0.0001 colprof -v -qh -al > >>>> > >>>> Before, then I only did a -qm calibration, I got strong red casts > >>>> on my calibrated screen, and the profiled applications gave strong > >>>> green casts. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> The > >>> > >>> > >>>> strange thing then was that the red cast only occurred on color > >>>> > >>>> > >>> 254,254,254 to > >>> > >>> > >>>> around 249,249,249 but tones darker than that looked neutral grey > >>>> with my eyes. After that I chose -qh this color tones and others > >>>> looks neutral, > >>>> > >>>> > >>> with my > >>> > >>> > >>>> eyes. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> After that I load the calibration profile done after the command > >>>> above I > >>>> > >>>> > >>> got > >>> > >>> > >>>> this then I run dispcal -r -yl: > >>>> > >>>> magnus@debian:~$ dispcal -r -yl > >>>> XRandR 1.2 is faulty - falling back to older extensions Place > >>>> instrument > >>>> > >>>> > >>> on test > >>> > >>> > >>>> window. > >>>> Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: > >>>> Current calibration response: > >>>> Black level = 0.60 cd/m^2 > >>>> White level = 135.50 cd/m^2 > >>>> Aprox. gamma = 1.92 > >>>> Contrast ratio = 226:1 > >>>> White chromaticity coordinates 0.3099, 0.3266 > >>>> White Correlated Color Temperature = 6676K, DE 2K to locus = 4.9 > >>>> White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6676K, DE 2K to locus = 0.3 > >>>> White Visual Color Temperature = 6490K, DE 2K to locus = 4.7 > >>>> White Visual Daylight Temperature = 6664K, DE 2K to locus = 0.3 > >>>> The instrument can be removed from the screen. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I understand nothing. How can I have gamma 1.92 and the above > >>>> temperature then I chose to calibrate to 2.2 and 6500? And why is > >>>> there a green cast on the pictures viewed in Color managed > >>>> applications? > >>>> > >>>> Did I understand things right: > >>>> I should load the profile as a system wide screen calibration > >>>> profile with dispcalGUI, the same as you do with dispwin -L. And > >>>> then I load then same profile to the color managed applications as > >>>> a screen color profile? > >>>> It's then I load then profile into then color managed applications > >>>> that > >>>> > >>>> > >>> then > >>> > >>> > >>>> green cast ampere. > >>>> > >>>> I have struggled with this for weeks, and googled a lot, and > >>>> reading this > >>>> > >>>> > >>> mail > >>> > >>> > >>>> list without finding any useful help. Therefor I ask you for help. > >>>> The > >>>> > >>>> > >>> only thing > >>> > >>> > >>>> I want is a good color managed environment for working with sRGB > >>>> pictures. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > > iF4EAREIAAYFAkvBy6wACgkQJYXm27tZN3e7cwEAyeZa6oZBvm5tAvys66Qc9a > 72 > > > 6ITd1+i7DGDjRnyC1kwBAIqW3EuOKQdfJBIeDlq0rB9Z5n3aggbZRZz+pCe09so2 > > =Ekit > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > >