[arachne] Re: Arachne and Open Suse?
- From: "Sam Ewalt" <ewalt@xxxxxxxx>
- To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:45:22 -0500 (EST)
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Rob,
That is all very interesting. I suppose I might be a compulsive
nonmulitasker. I have enough trouble keeping one thing going at
a time.
I certainly appreciate the creativity and possibility available
in Linux--but all I've done so far is dip my my toe in the ocean.
I'm happily operating here in KDE land and wondering why I might
ever need to run four simultaneous desktops, let alone login to
six different consoles.
I did have a shell account years ago and read Harley Hahn's A Student's
Guide to Unix, so I know enough to not be mucking about in root. Oh,
the horror.
Being your own sysadmin is a non-trivial task for the uninitiated
like myself.
Thanks again for the VT explanation, Virtual Terminal, eh?
Sam Ewalt
On Thu, January 20, 2011 8:07 pm, Rob wrote:
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>
> Hey Sam,
> I figgered I should explain VTs. You prolly will never need them but here
> goes. At a Linux console, you can change user or login multiple times as
> the same user, by pressing the meta key, such as ALT and a function key.
> If you login, then press ALT+F2 at the console, you will get another
> Terminal to login too. Useful if you have problems or are an obsessive
> multitasker. In a GUI press CTRL+ALT+F2 and again will get a login. You
> can have a console and GUI going at the same time. The GUI will on most
> distros be at F7. Console will USUALLY be F1 thru F6. To login to more
> GUIs, at F2 give the command-
> 'startx -- :1', third GUI, 'startx -- :2', and so on. Good for problems
> without rebooting. Some users like me keep an extra user on hand to login
> to, in case the regular user does a FUBAR. If you are one of those people
> who spent years being trained and conditioned by Microsoft DOS/windo$e
> to think of software use by their standards, and have never gotten past
> the total N00BIE stage of running as Administrator, or Root, then
> disregard the above info. Please try to never network or use the internet
> as root. I've seen too many M$ N00Bs get rooted and never have a frikken
> clue that they have a rootkit installed on their system. BTW I'm glad you
> found a distro that works for you, SuSE is a very solid system, not to my
> taste but obviously to your's. Also Ron gave you good advice about
> Sylpheed. I use it when in a GUI. There are at least two forks, but I
> think plain old original Sylpheed is best.
> Rob
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Sam Ewalt wrote:
>
>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>>
>> Vt's????
>>
>> YMMV?????
>>
>> Oh, your mileage may vary. Yeah, Suse installed without any problem
>> whatsoever with all kinds of goodies and a slick KDE interface that
>> runs perfectly with Firefox and an Open Office variant all installed
>> and ready to go. I know next to nothing about Linux.
>>
>> What I'm really looking for is a simple email app that will take
>> a text file email list without it being converted to some sort of
>> database file.
>>
>> Like the way Arachne would take a file with one email on a line and
>> then send email to the list.
>>
>> I like Arachne because I'm familiar with it, having used it for years
>> and I basically hate new software with thousands of feature I don't
>> need.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On Tue, January 18, 2011 7:46 pm, Rob wrote:
>>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>>>
>>> Hey Sam,
>>> What Ron said! Aside from that, I have DOS Arachne running in
>>> dosemu on my Slackware box. It takes about one second to go
>>> from Linux to DOS that way. I just switch VTs. Dosemu is a bit
>>> of a misnomer as it's not really an emulater, but rather a
>>> Virtual Machine. I compiled mine from source, but the binary
>>> version is quite easy to setup. Run whatever DOS you want to
>>> install, M$, DrDOS, OpenDOS, FreeDOS or whatever. If you want
>>> to try it I recommend FreeDOS as it is light years ahead of the
>>> old proprietary DOSs. One problem tho. Newer Arachne versions
>>> have something wrong with them, where they don't like dosemu or
>>> FreeDOS. Version 166 and 170 run with them just as well as any
>>> brand of DOS on a dedicated DOS computer. I'm thinking of trying
>>> dosemu on my NetBSD or OpenBSD boxes now. I had a problem getting
>>> things to work with my router, but I got that worked out. Dosemu
>>> automatically loads it's own packet driver. DHCP kept giving my
>>> ethernet card two IP addresses. My Linux had one, dosemu got one.
>>> It works now I know that. I would like to get archn170 to work
>>> with authsmtp tho. I've used the binary version of dosemu and I
>>> can recommend that one for anyone, it's kinda kewl to instantly
>>> switch back and forth between OSs. It works really well from the
>>> console, but works in X too. Ctrl+Alt+F in X goes to fullscreen
>>> and looks just like a native DOS. X is a little slower than in
>>> the console which would be expected. I've used SuSE, but not a
>>> big fan of it, it's geared towards enterprises migrating from
>>> windo$e to Linux, so YMMV. If you want to try it, let me know
>>> and I'll send you my '.dosemurc'.
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Sam Ewalt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>>>>
>>>> The hard drives on both my DOS and XP computers died this past year
>>>> and I'm now running Open SuSe Linux. Is there any hope of getting
>>>> Arachne running with Open Suse?
>>>>
>>>> I know that Arachne Linux originally was written with libraries that
>>>> were current in days gone by which may not be included in current
>>>> distros.
>>>>
>>>> Words to the wise from the Linux gurus would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Sam Ewalt
>>>>
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