On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:12 AM, dave <dengvall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 00:04 -0500, Matt Shaver wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:46:14 -0700 >> Brent Muller <bmuller@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > Hi guys- >> > I recently got a little clarification from the original submitter of >> > the code: >> > >> > >Hi Brent, >> > >Yesterday, I mailed you a CD with the unzipped code and the >> > >documentation. >> > > >> > >I think I may need to clarify one thing; I can't represent that this >> > >code is in the public domain. The package was purchased from Cam-I >> > >20+ years ago. I don't know what it's official status is currently. >> >> Here's an interesting thread that describes somewhat the history of some >> of this: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/alt.machines.cnc/apt4/alt.machines.cnc/jdq-uAj0dYY >> >> I _think_ that this computer code is either in the public domain, or in >> that weird state of being "a Work of the United States Government", or >> quite possibly there is no one left who cares what happens. >> >> > I guess I am interpreting that to mean that we should just work on >> > this privately, perhaps on a private site, until we get the >> > government okay. What do you guys think? >> >> Since the issue is raised, it requires consideration. We have a >> reasonable expectation that relatively soon we'll have a copy from NASA >> on terms that will allow free, open research and use. I propose that, >> until we have more information on this (hopefully from NASA), we have a >> gentleman's agreement amongst us that anyone who is interested in >> fooling with this code will e-mail Brent to get their initial copy. >> Since there are only 9 people subscribed to this list, that's actually >> a reasonable approach :) This way, Brent will know who has copies in >> case someone objects. As a condition of receiving the code, you need to >> agree to erase it from your computer if requested. I think this is a >> reasonable standard of care considering the circumstances. >> >> > Do you guys have thoughts on how best to share the code amongst >> > ourselves? Preferences on tools, e.g., Subversion, Git, etc? >> >> Tomorrow, I'll do some research into free, but access controlled, git >> hosts. If this exists, that's even easier than e-mailing copies of the >> code and allows for some collaboration if desired. > > Controlled access (for record keeping) certainly makes sense. > > My weak and aging mind also thinks that we need some metric of how > different this code is from the original V4 that Brent worked on. > > I believe Matt suggested using meld to elucidate differences. That was me, I want to see what the basic changes are to enable string processing using sensible methods rather than the original codes use of number fields and arrays of numbers. I imagine a lot of similarity and a code style change or a large refactor I still have a slight dream of getting the original compiling on a modern compiler. Dave Caroline > > I'm neutral since I have no knowledge of the best way to go about it. > > > Dave >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> > > >