Nope. You don't get to hurl the accusation that "a majority of the AODVv2
author team has decided to cave in", then come back and say "I would certainly
appreciate alternative wording." It doesn't work that way.
As for "a constructive discussion on these matters" - we *already had* that
discussion. It was yesterday. The team expressed consensus - with 1 member "in
the rough". Issue decided. Time to change the text, and move on. If you want to
appeal, then have at it.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: aodvv2-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aodvv2-discuss-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charlie Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:00 PM
To: aodvv2-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aodvv2-discuss] Re: Regarding the discussion about tagging every
address.
Hello Stan,
There is another possibility, which would have a lot better outcome.
Namely, please let me know where I have failed, which facts I neglected in
my cherry-picking, and why is it self-serving? By the way, I am not making
any money on this.
If my choice of wording is insulting, I would certainly appreciate alternative
wording.
I said basically these same things on the call yesterday, and tried to get
clarity
that I did understand things correctly.
One other thing -- I am not shooting any you or anyone else here. If you feel
that I am doing that, then there's already something wrong and we should fix
it.
If anything, I am shooting at the incredible intransigence of Henning et al.,
for
reasons I have stated many times.
If you think I am myopic because I cannot see the bigger picture -- then let
me hazard a guess that the bigger picture is actually getting AODVv2 to Last
Call. Well you can bet your last $0.35 that I see that picture. It does not
negate the observations I listed in my email, and I somehow wonder why
asking Alvaro's opinion would have a negative effect on getting to Last Call.
Please do accept my invitation for a constructive discussion on these matters.
Regards,
Charlie P.
On 6/9/2015 9:23 AM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
Charlie,picked", and frankly, insulting.
Sigh. IMHO, your synopsis is myopic, somewhat self-serving and "cherry-
to discuss with whomever you choose - Alvaro, Alia, Clausen.... heck, even
That said, it *should* go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: You're
free
Jari and/or Abdussalam. Rock and roll. Take your best shot. Then I'll take
mine.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: aodvv2-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aodvv2-discuss-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charlie Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:06 PM
To: aodvv2-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aodvv2-discuss] Regarding the discussion about tagging
every address.
Hello folks,
These are my understandings:
- The discussion will take too long.
- The technical merit does not matter. Reviewing technical arguments
takes too long and would not change anyone's mind.
- Henning has said the same thing over and over again and will not change.
- We cannot win this (regardless of technical merit).
So, on this basis, a majority of the AODVv2 author team has decided
to cave in.
If this is correct, I would like to inform Alvaro of the status of
this issue. I want to hear his opinion about this.
Regards,
Charlie P.
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