[aodvv2-discuss] Re: Metric type -- no longer citing RFC 6551

  • From: Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: aodvv2-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 06:59:04 -0700

Hello Stan,

I think we should target getting the next draft out this week. If the Security Considerations is good, then I don't remember any other major questions after the Metric Type.

There's something about knowing when RREP_Ack timeout occurs. I will write text for that today.

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 4/18/2016 6:46 AM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:


It will have to be added to the IANA considerations section as well.

What does this bring our list of to-dos down to? I’m getting **intense** heat.

Stan

*From:*aodvv2-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aodvv2-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *John Dowdell
*Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2016 9:43 AM
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*Subject:* [aodvv2-discuss] Re: Metric type -- no longer citing RFC 6551

    On 18 Apr 2016, at 10:30, Victoria Mercieca <vmercieca0@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:vmercieca0@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    No objection here, and perhaps you might also mention those metric
    types in the discussion I started, giving the length of the value
    field that is appropriate for each, as I don't know what to say
    next! :)

    Kind regards,

    Vicky.

Happy with that too. It would be good to keep these as separate drafts but at the same time validate the main draft for adding metrics.



    On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Charlie Perkins
    <charles.perkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:charles.perkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


        Hello folks,

        After extensive discussion with various people, I think there
        does not exist today a suitable IETF registry for
        protocol-independent link metrics.

        In our case, the cure is simple.  RFC 6551 was only cited in
        section 11.6.  That section can be easily modified to lose the
        citation. The result is:

        11.6.  MetricType Allocation

           The metric types used by AODVv2 are identified according to
        a new
           table to be created and maintained by IANA. All
        implementations MUST
           use these values.

        +---------------------+----------+--------------------+
                  | Name of MetricType  | Type     | Metric Value Size  |
        +---------------------+----------+--------------------+
                  | Unassigned          | 0        | Undefined          |
                  | Hop Count           | 1        | 1 octet            |
                  | Unallocated         | 2 - 254  | TBD                |
                  | Reserved            | 255      | Undefined          |
        +---------------------+----------+--------------------+

                               Table 7: AODVv2 Metric Types


        If there is no objection, I would like to propose this to the
        list tomorrow.  It's almost guaranteed to be the solution with
        the least perturbation to the existing text.

        I also have drafts for the following additive cost link metrics:
        - Transmission duration per bit
        - ETX / ERX  (expected retransmission count)
        - Received Signal Weakness (allows selection of route with
        highest signal strength)

The transmission time per bit is an interesting one; guess this corresponds to more or less complex modulation schemes and therefore likelihood of being successfully received in noisy environments. However, don’t the wireless devices work that out for themselves, and how will you get the modem to notify the modulation scheme back up through the RFC5444 multiplexer mechanism? This is maybe a thing that DLEP can help with; there are a number of extension drafts active for DLEP right now, and all three (or at least the first two) could be candidates.

Regards

John


        The last two conform to IEEE 802.15.10 definitions which have
        been discussed pretty thoroughly.

        I don't propose to make AODVv2 in any way dependent on these
        metric documents, but they should be considered for use with
        AODVv2.  On the other hand, if you folks want them to
        supplement hop count, I am totally at your service.  I've also
        looked at RFC 7185.  I think those metrics can easily be
        specified to be protocol-neutral.

        Longer term, I think there is a good chance that the above
        table would be subsumed in a protocol-independent registry,
        but we can't wait on that.  I have a lot more information
        about this if you are interested.  I am not the only
        interested in creating such a registry.  Don't be surprised if
        there's a BoF.


        Regards,
        Charlie P.







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