Hello Stan,
I thought my point was responsive to your question. Some of the
operations affecting the route table happen because a link breaks and
routes need to be invalidated, or a packet cannot be forwarded. If a
solution does not handle link breakages, then that solution will impose
less burden on the route table interface.
I really don't think I was talking past you on this.
I interpret your words to mean that we should NOT respond on the mailing
list until ALL of the comments have some resolution.
If you would like to be more responsive sooner, we could instead post
follow-up on MOST of the comments with the further notice that our full
resolution to the route table interface question is not yet complete.
No matter what, the route table interface question deserves its own email.
Regards,
Charlie P.
On 8/31/2015 10:39 AM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
Charlie,
I get the distinct impression that, as a co-worker of mine used to say, "We're
talking past each other". I don't know how we got off into link breakage, or
re-linking the object files with a socket wrapper, or recompiling with a new clib.a...
and at any rate, all of that discussion is at a much more detailed-level than I was
interested in. I'm just simply trying to string 3 points together to give us some
direction:
1. Clausen is raising (valid, IMO) concerns about how the AODVv2 draft
interfaces with the host routing table.
2. LOADng was (apparently) written in such a manner that interface with host
routing table wasn't an issue (or it dealt with it).
3. Therefore, why don't we use LOADng as a template to craft text concerning
the interface with the host routing table?
As for your statement that.. "But first, we have to get responses back to the WG mailing list..."
I'm unwilling to respond to the list without at least attempting to address Thomas' route table issue. Since
he (Thomas) has, by far, complained the loudest about the AODVv2 team being "unresponsive" and
"unwilling to change", I think it's imperative that we at least acknowledge that we are looking at
his concern. Anything less than that will put us back into the same vicious loop we were in until very
recently.
Regards,
Stan
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Hello Stan,
I'm not sure they handle link breakage. I'd have to go look again...
I'll try to do that "soon". But first, we have to get responses back to the WG
mailing list. I'm working on summarizing the discussion on this list related to
'Resolving comments within file
"draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-11 (p1-22).pdf"' I hope to send the result to you all
today.
Does anyone else want to post it to the [manet] list, as requested
previously?
Regards,
Charlie P.
On 8/31/2015 10:08 AM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
Charlie,least I figure it was written) in such a way that the interface to the host
OK....
The point I was trying to make is that the LOADng spec was written (or, at
routing table wasn't an issue. Stealing text would be a bad thing (especially
since the last time I looked, LOADng was copyrighted), but we could take a
look, see how LOADng as structured, and consider structuring AODVv2 in a
similar fashion, so as to address the concerns.
Regards,out?
Stan
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table <from user space>?
Hello folks,
I can think of at least four ways to do it without messing with the
kernel, in addition to the brute-force ways of re-linking the object
files using a socket wrapper library. Or, typically worse,
recompiling with a new clib.a. But all of them have more overhead.
Regards,
Charlie P.
On 8/25/2015 10:16 AM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
Charlie,did LOADng do it? Justin? Any guidance here as to how LOADng pulled
Well, as to all of the interface with the host routing table, I
wonder - how
off Linux routing table interface?
Regards,
Stan
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Subject: [aodvv2-discuss] When shall we meet to get the new draft
soon?
Hello folks,
I will prepare a response to Clausen's comments. Given past
history, it might be nice for someone else's name to be on the
"From:" line of that email to the list.
Shouldn't we be having a meeting and getting a new draft out very
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