On 6 Nov 2006 as I do recall, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 06 Nov, Mark J <Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > In message <8baa9c814e.Dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Dave Barnett <as10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > [snip] > > > Defer Subject: = Re: * > > > And References: - > > > > > > detects this. A 'References:' header should be included in replies. > > [snip] > > > That would have caught emails from my bank, my solicitor, and the > > Royal Mail :-( > > I've yet to see a genuine instance of any of those using e-mail (except > possibly a bank replying to a complaint) > Here's an example of a perfectly genuine reply I received last month (arrived at the ISP without Message-ID *or* References headers....) Presumably Microsoft's 'Thread-Index' header is supposed to be a substitute? Return-Path: <cybervil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> X-Gradwell-POP3: delivered to <bazley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> at Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:48:07 +0100 Received: from lon-mail-8.gradwell.net [193.111.200.63] by lon-file-4.gradwell.net (Gradwell pop3-delivery-daemon); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:48:07 +0100 Received: from lon-mail-relay-1.gradwell.net ([193.111.201.133] country=GB) by lon-mail-8.gradwell.net with esmtp (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.234) id 451c9777.93cb.1be4 for bazley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:48:07 +0100 (envelope-sender <cybervil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) Received: from newred.gradwell.net ([193.111.200.20]) by lon-mail-relay-1.gradwell.net with smtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1GT9M7-000CmF-Mf for bazley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:48:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 67447 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2006 03:48:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (127.0.0.1) by newred.gradwell.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2006 03:48:07 -0000 From: "xxx" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: bazley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: CASE: New website latest news Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:11:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: <78df236d4e.harriet@xxxxxxxxxx> Thread-Index: Acbio9LAIcCRJAa9TtuJuqFmZvz6AgAjdkvA X-Envelope-To: harriet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx X-claradeliver-Version: 4.22.20 X-UIDL: 1159470661.92838.mrpop.freeuk.net,S=2686 X-RCPT: harriet Status: U X-Feathermail-Original-To: bazley@xxxxxxxxxx Sender: Alan Wrigley <cybervil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <gwh.451c9777.93cb.1be4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- H. Bazley Eschew Obfuscation.